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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:31 pm

This mobilisation may not actually be just for Ukraine. It is for all those in the area who wish to join Nato.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:39 pm

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Londonrake wrote:Either way, it smells like desperation but sounds as though it won’t change the way the Ukrainians are prosecuting the war. :(


And how does it smell to you like when the Americans are currently "planning" to provide the Ukrainians with hundreds of modern Tanks, and F-16 fighter jets? Who is the desperate one here breaking all red lines, pushing their luck to the limit?


Jam tomorrow then.

GR shows us daily that the Ukrainians are losing vast amounts of equipment and men. Tens of thousands apparently. That, whilst the Russian Forces increasingly go from strength to strength.

Shoigu announced today the official number of Russian dead in the Ukraine Special Military Operation to be 5397.

Why then the need to mobilize and - for the umpteenth time - threats from Putin & Co about their willingness to use nuclear weapons?


You haven't answered the main question. Why are the Americans escalating the conflict by been the ONLY country that will provide Ukraine with hundreds of modern tanks even F-16 risking getting nuked themselves? Do you have any doubt that such a move will cross all red lines for Russia?
So who is CURRENTLY so desperate of losing everything on the first place? Isn't it America? And what is that "everything" they will lose? That should be enough to spin your thinking.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:42 pm

Lordo wrote:This mobilisation may not actually be just for Ukraine. It is for all those in the area who wish to join Nato.


Hmmm... :!: :idea:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:27 pm

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You haven't answered the main question. Why are the Americans escalating the conflict by been the ONLY country that will provide Ukraine with hundreds of modern tanks even F-16 risking getting nuked themselves? Do you have any doubt that such a move will cross all red lines for Russia?
So who is CURRENTLY so desperate of losing everything on the first place? Isn't it America? And what is that "everything" they will lose? That should be enough to spin your thinking.


As is so often the case. The discourse of the deaf. :(

Putin’s in trouble - now - his army has significant problems, but he can never acknowledge anything which hints at defeat. Even partial. Not least because his most loyal supporters would eat him alive.

Your point about weapon systems is nothing new and it remains to be seen just who would actually end up delivering what/when. It’s a non-sequitur/distraction from today’s important issue. More desperation.

Today Putin publicly announces the mobilization of 300,000 reservists and reiterates his willingness to use nuclear weapons in defence of Mother Russia. That, whilst adding, after sham, illegal, positive annexation referendums in seized Ukrainian territory he would regard them as part of the Homeland. Ipso facto, if the Ukrainians continue efforts to take back their land he will feel fully justified in using nuclear weapons in defence of “Russia”. These are indisputable facts, widely and publicly reported.

Yet, you insist the US, who haven’t committed or lost any troops in Ukraine, are responsible for this escalation - presumably with a straight face - and question my thinking.

You don’t comment on Shoigu’s clearly ludicrous claim of only 6000 Russian dead. Perhaps you believe him? Why not? You’ve regularly believed other fairy stories about this conflict. Nor do you tell us why - GR’s showing us daily for 7 months how much the Russian army has ground down the Ukrainians - mobilization and more nuclear threats have suddenly become necessary.

It’s a mystery apparently. :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:08 pm

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You haven't answered the main question. Why are the Americans escalating the conflict by been the ONLY country that will provide Ukraine with hundreds of modern tanks even F-16 risking getting nuked themselves? Do you have any doubt that such a move will cross all red lines for Russia?
So who is CURRENTLY so desperate of losing everything on the first place? Isn't it America? And what is that "everything" they will lose? That should be enough to spin your thinking.


As is so often the case. The discourse of the deaf. :(

Putin’s in trouble - now - his army has significant problems, but he can never acknowledge anything which hints at defeat. Even partial. Not least because his most loyal supporters would eat him alive.

Your point about weapon systems is nothing new and it remains to be seen just who would actually end up delivering what/when. It’s a non-sequitur/distraction from today’s important issue. More desperation.

Today Putin publicly announces the mobilization of 300,000 reservists and reiterates his willingness to use nuclear weapons in defence of Mother Russia. That, whilst adding, after sham, illegal, positive annexation referendums in seized Ukrainian territory he would regard them as part of the Homeland. Ipso facto, if the Ukrainians continue efforts to take back their land he will feel fully justified in using nuclear weapons in defence of “Russia”. These are indisputable facts, widely and publicly reported.

Yet, you insist the US, who haven’t committed or lost any troops in Ukraine, are responsible for this escalation - presumably with a straight face - and question my thinking.

You don’t comment on Shoigu’s clearly ludicrous claim of only 6000 Russian dead. Perhaps you believe him? Why not? You’ve regularly believed other fairy stories about this conflict. Nor do you tell us why - GR’s showing us daily for 7 months how much the Russian army has ground down the Ukrainians - mobilization and more nuclear threats have suddenly become necessary.

It’s a mystery apparently. :?


1st paragraph: You seem to know everything. Probably you are a mouse inside Kremlin hearing and knowing everything.

2nd paragraph: Obviously you don't follow the news, about what the Pentagon is "considering".

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The rest is just about the same nonsense. Not worthy of wasting my time.

Btw are you trying to write poetry or is that a deliberate effort to make yourself incomprehensible?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:20 pm

DING DONG bitches!

It doesn't matter what America is considering with regard to arming the Ukrainian military. They are arming a sovereign country, member of the UN with defined borders that has been invaded. It is very noble, ethical and within international law as America is helping the nation of Ukraine defend its territorial integrity. It would be reprehensible of America, and downright disgusting if they would not do what they are doing. America is on the right side of history. Russia invaded another country and has broken international laws and conventions. FACT!

And it is not the only country arming Ukraina. So many more countries are doing the same, the most prolific of which are UK, Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.

You are in trouble bitches and losing the war. Ukraine will be the end of Pootin and Russia as you know it.

They will continue with exactly what they are doing. There will be no rest for Russians in Ukraine, except in a grave.

Now bitches, just remain patient, after my redeye tionight, I promise I will be rubbing your reprehensively dirty noses in the dirt. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:32 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:27 pm



...just a Ukrainian adventure.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:52 pm



...only five minutes; an interesting take covering may facets.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:38 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:As is so often the case. The discourse of the deaf. :(

Putin’s in trouble - now - his army has significant problems, but he can never acknowledge anything which hints at defeat. Even partial. Not least because his most loyal supporters would eat him alive.

Your point about weapon systems is nothing new and it remains to be seen just who would actually end up delivering what/when. It’s a non-sequitur/distraction from today’s important issue. More desperation.

Today Putin publicly announces the mobilization of 300,000 reservists and reiterates his willingness to use nuclear weapons in defence of Mother Russia. That, whilst adding, after sham, illegal, positive annexation referendums in seized Ukrainian territory he would regard them as part of the Homeland. Ipso facto, if the Ukrainians continue efforts to take back their land he will feel fully justified in using nuclear weapons in defence of “Russia”. These are indisputable facts, widely and publicly reported.

Yet, you insist the US, who haven’t committed or lost any troops in Ukraine, are responsible for this escalation - presumably with a straight face - and question my thinking.

You don’t comment on Shoigu’s clearly ludicrous claim of only 6000 Russian dead. Perhaps you believe him? Why not? You’ve regularly believed other fairy stories about this conflict. Nor do you tell us why - GR’s showing us daily for 7 months how much the Russian army has ground down the Ukrainians - mobilization and more nuclear threats have suddenly become necessary.

It’s a mystery apparently. :?


1st paragraph: You seem to know everything. Probably you are a mouse inside Kremlin hearing and knowing everything.

2nd paragraph: Obviously you don't follow the news, about what the Pentagon is "considering".

.....

The rest is just about the same nonsense. Not worthy of wasting my time.

Btw are you trying to write poetry or is that a deliberate effort to make yourself incomprehensible?


WTF does "Mouse in the Kremlin" mean? Putin's appeared in front of the world to announce all of this today. :roll:

What's happened in the past 24 hours is Putin has deliberately cranked things up ..........................considerably. Bringing humanity closer to nuclear war than it's been for 60 years, in the holy cause of saving his sorry ass. (GR - "If Putin goes everthing must go!" :eyecrazy: )

If you want to play the personal abuse card instead of civilized discussion then OK - fuck you.

You've been a useful idiot since the beginning. Echoing everything the Kremlin pours out - even the ridiculous stuff - like a compliant sheep. Perfect material.

I have no doubt at all that if Russia nuked London tomorrow - a city of 8 million and something a very senior advisor to Putin suggested could happen on the BBC today - you would think up some fuckwit reason why the man had no choice and it was all the US/UK's fault.

You're a GR sycophant who's even adopted his "criminal" prefix recently. You stay silent on his nuclear Armageddon rants like a servile disciple. Claiming that any pointing out of the lunacy is "tricks". :roll:

This entire worldwide fuck up is down to one man. A man who's ruled Russia with an iron fist for over 2 decades and has broached no opposition. A man who's talked publicly - it's there on YouTube - about his dream of Russia, post Soviet Union glory - revisiting the days of Peter the Great.

If you think Russia invading a neighbouring country with 200,000 troops, killing tens of thousands and levelling cities and towns is in anyway excusable - although of course very interesting from behind that keyboard - then you're a ................... searches for forum term..................... got it................cunt. You do seem to enjoy the spectacle. "Oh, look! There go 3 Ukranian troops flying through the air. Well spotted." Men dying defending their country. Although, we don't like to see any corpses - do we? That would be too much. Wanker.

BTW - still no comment on Shoigu's statement? Well, there's a surprise.

No comment on how wrong you were about Tim's posts. Well, there's a surprise.

The lack of any answer to those points and pathetic avoidance of a reasoned response to my previous post is of course because you simply don't have one.

Back to the safety of broadcasting Kremlin propaganda for you then I guess. Why waste your valuable time discussing the issues - on what's supposed to be a "debating" forum.
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