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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:00 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Russia preparing for mobilization
https://southfront.org/russia-preparing ... ilization/

Zelensky the clown in Moscow during his presidential campaign, was saying...
https://zggg98sgwbg1gh.bitchute.com/SaN ... XmCW0O.mp4

Iranian Game Changer In The Ukrainian War...
https://seed171.bitchute.com/Zh4Z4Pxihy ... GJgFVr.mp4

Battle for high ground...
https://seed122.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... ec3eqH.mp4

DPR, LPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye will all hold referendums to join Russia...
https://seed177.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... dXGrSz.mp4


There are 2 possible reasons for those referenda
a)To mobilize forces from those regions.
b) To escalate the war to nuclear on the excuse that the existence of Russian territory is threatened.

"a" looks weak to me because if they are going to mobilize forces they have to mobilize from all Russian territory.
"b" also looks weak.
But I can't imagine any other reason/s, any ideas?

I’m not 100% a mobilization is going ahead… too few sources are claiming this.

Putin was due to make some announcements earlier today but it got postponed for tomorrow.

Let’s see what he announces tomorrow to hopefully clear things up.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... ed-through
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:20 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Russia preparing for mobilization
https://southfront.org/russia-preparing ... ilization/

Zelensky the clown in Moscow during his presidential campaign, was saying...
https://zggg98sgwbg1gh.bitchute.com/SaN ... XmCW0O.mp4

Iranian Game Changer In The Ukrainian War...
https://seed171.bitchute.com/Zh4Z4Pxihy ... GJgFVr.mp4

Battle for high ground...
https://seed122.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... ec3eqH.mp4

DPR, LPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye will all hold referendums to join Russia...
https://seed177.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... dXGrSz.mp4


There are 2 possible reasons for those referenda
a)To mobilize forces from those regions.
b) To escalate the war to nuclear on the excuse that the existence of Russian territory is threatened.

"a" looks weak to me because if they are going to mobilize forces they have to mobilize from all Russian territory.
"b" also looks weak.
But I can't imagine any other reason/s, any ideas?


I go with “b”, which is why Ukraine thus far has not officially attacked Russia itself, and for a very good reason for a strong retaliation by Russia, and why the USA is reluctant to give Ukraine much longer range missiles that 80km at the moment.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:07 am

Either way, it smells like desperation but sounds as though it won’t change the way the Ukrainians are prosecuting the war. :(
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:19 am

It will change the dynamics of the war by Russia declaring war on Ukraine on the grounds "Russia" being attacked in the confiscated areas of Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:59 am

The war is about to get pushed a peg or two up. Nothing to worry about only Ukrainian people and the Russian soldiers are paying for it in blood. American arms corporations and the Europeans too is safe and sound and raking it in from weapons sales as well as the energy hikes in prices. So no end to energy crises.

May your god help us.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:53 am

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Russia preparing for mobilization
https://southfront.org/russia-preparing ... ilization/

Zelensky the clown in Moscow during his presidential campaign, was saying...
https://zggg98sgwbg1gh.bitchute.com/SaN ... XmCW0O.mp4

Iranian Game Changer In The Ukrainian War...
https://seed171.bitchute.com/Zh4Z4Pxihy ... GJgFVr.mp4

Battle for high ground...
https://seed122.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... ec3eqH.mp4

DPR, LPR, Kherson, Zaporozhye will all hold referendums to join Russia...
https://seed177.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... dXGrSz.mp4


There are 2 possible reasons for those referenda
a)To mobilize forces from those regions.
b) To escalate the war to nuclear on the excuse that the existence of Russian territory is threatened.

"a" looks weak to me because if they are going to mobilize forces they have to mobilize from all Russian territory.
"b" also looks weak.
But I can't imagine any other reason/s, any ideas?


I go with “b”, which is why Ukraine thus far has not officially attacked Russia itself, and for a very good reason for a strong retaliation by Russia, and why the USA is reluctant to give Ukraine much longer range missiles that 80km at the moment.


Hasn't it??? They are shelling Belgorod and other cities in Kursk district all day. That's to the North of Kharkiv. The Russian city of Kliukva in Kursk that was hit about a month ago is 150Km from Ukr borders! Currently they are shelling Russian villages at the borders. It looks they are thinking of breaking in Luhansk through Russian territory in the North.
About a week ago they also shelled 2 -3 big cities in Russia in the sea of Azov. If I remember well one of them was Rostov. But Rostov is 190 Km away from the nearest Ukrainian position. So imo it's a myth they were provided with weapons limited to 80 Km
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:03 am

Londonrake wrote:Either way, it smells like desperation but sounds as though it won’t change the way the Ukrainians are prosecuting the war. :(


And how does it smell to you like when the Americans are currently "planning" to provide the Ukrainians with hundreds of modern Tanks, and F-16 fighter jets? Who is the desperate one here breaking all red lines, pushing their luck to the limit?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:10 am

Shelling of Russian villages (close to the borders) is in the news nearly every day!

https://t.me/rybar/39091

Border territories of the Russian Federation:


Ukrainian formations shelled the villages of Volfino and Tetkino in the Glushkovsky district of the Kursk region, as a result of which a local resident was wounded.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:29 am

Partial mobilization in Russia of about 300K troops effective as of today 21 Sep 2022

https://t.me/rybar/39106

Decree on partial mobilization in Russia published

In accordance with the federal laws of May 31, 1996 No. 61-FZ "On Defense", of February 26, 1997 No. 31-FZ "On mobilization training and mobilization in the Russian Federation" and of March 28, 1998 No. 53- Federal Law "On military duty and military service" I decide:

1. To announce partial mobilization in the Russian Federation from September 21, 2022.

2. To carry out the call of citizens of the Russian Federation for military service for mobilization in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Citizens of the Russian Federation called up for military service by mobilization have the status of military personnel serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation under a contract.

3. Establish that the level of pay for citizens of the Russian Federation called up for military service by mobilization into the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation corresponds to the level of pay for military personnel serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation under a contract.

4. Contracts for the passage of military service concluded by military personnel continue to be valid until the end of the period of partial mobilization, with the exception of cases of dismissal of military personnel from military service on the grounds established by this Decree.

5. Establish during the period of partial mobilization the following grounds for the dismissal from military service of servicemen undergoing military service under a contract, as well as citizens of the Russian Federation called up for military service for mobilization in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation:

a) by age - upon reaching the age limit for military service;

b) for health reasons - in connection with their recognition by the military medical commission as unfit for military service, with the exception of military personnel who have expressed a desire to continue military service in military positions that can be replaced by the specified military personnel;

c) in connection with the entry into force of a court verdict on the imposition of a sentence of imprisonment.

6. To the Government of the Russian Federation:

a) to finance activities for partial mobilization;

b) take the necessary measures to meet the needs of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops, military formations and bodies during the period of partial mobilization.

8. The highest officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation shall ensure the conscription of citizens for military service for mobilization in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the number and within the time limits determined by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for each constituent entity of the Russian Federation.

9. Provide citizens of the Russian Federation working in organizations of the military-industrial complex with the right to deferment from conscription for military service for mobilization (for the period of work in these organizations). The categories of citizens of the Russian Federation who are granted the right to deferment and the procedure for granting it are determined by the Government of the Russian Federation.

10. This Decree comes into force from the day of its official publication.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:24 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Either way, it smells like desperation but sounds as though it won’t change the way the Ukrainians are prosecuting the war. :(


And how does it smell to you like when the Americans are currently "planning" to provide the Ukrainians with hundreds of modern Tanks, and F-16 fighter jets? Who is the desperate one here breaking all red lines, pushing their luck to the limit?


Jam tomorrow then.

GR shows us daily that the Ukrainians are losing vast amounts of equipment and men. Tens of thousands apparently. That, whilst the Russian Forces increasingly go from strength to strength.

Shoigu announced today the official number of Russian dead in the Ukraine Special Military Operation to be 5397.

Why then the need to mobilize and - for the umpteenth time - threats from Putin & Co about their willingness to use nuclear weapons?
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