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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Ukraine will ensure the Geneva Conventions are adhered to.



Aren't you the one who was bragging the Uks don't take POW, just like the "tough" Aussies?
Aren't you the one who cheered watching videos of Rs POW's been shot on the legs before getting tortured?
Weren't the Rs who first let the International Red Cross to visit Uks POWs (the azovs) as per Geneva Convention, whereas the Uks never did?

You are irreparable. :shock:


Sorry but I don't condone war crimes, and I also condemn the Australian SAS for doing what it did. But a SAS unit is small and has clear orders and objectives, and POWs can result in failure. SAS don't do Mission Failure very well.

The only time I can excuse it is if the commander would put himself or his men at risk because of these POWs. And the Ukrainians may have in the past found themselves in such a position, and may find themselves in such a position in the ffuture.

But generally speaking, if you have the resources to take POWs and send them to the rear where they can be safetly processed, fed, given a smoke and a drink, and then go for somekind of enhanced interrogation for intelligence gathering, then so be it. War is an ugly beast and these Russians are in someone elses country, killing, looting and committing crimes.

Russia started this war, in someone else's land, and as a result will be on the receiving end of some very pissed off Ukrainian Soldiers.


I didn't ask for another stupid essay! I was very specific to my questions, which pinpointed the fact that you are talking too much nonsense
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:53 pm

I found Rybar's maps and brief explanation extremely accurate, never propagandist, and always presenting reality as it is. I really trust this channel.
Compare Paphiti's video saying the Ukrainians break through Oskol and actually heading towards Lughansk to the reality (marked in red color)

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Attack on Donbass: the situation in the east of Ukraine
by the end of September 14, 2022

Border territories of the Russian Federation:

The Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Russian servicemen near the village of Elizavetovka on the border of the Sumy and Kursk regions, but they were rebuffed and retreated.

In the Belgorod region, the enemy shelled the villages of Krasny Khutor and Zhuravlevka, there were no wounded or injured.

Kharkiv direction:

The situation in Liman and Yampol remains calm: the allied forces continue to repel the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on this sector of the front.

Ukrainian DRGs are periodically thrown into Russian-controlled territory across the Oskol River.

The RF Armed Forces carried out several missile strikes on the facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kharkiv.

On the Bakhmutsky (Artemovsky) direction:

Assault detachments of "PMC Wagner" are engaged in positional battles on the outskirts of Bakhmut (Artemovsk) and Soledar.

To the south, the allied forces are advancing towards Zaitsevo, the capture of which in the future will allow blocking Bakhmut from the south.

On Donetsk direction:

Positional battles continue in the vicinity of Pervomaisky and Pesok.

The Ukrainian command continues to prepare for a counteroffensive on the settlements of the Donetsk agglomeration.

In the Zaporozhye direction:

In the morning, around 8:00 am, the Armed Forces of Ukraine pulled equipment to the Orekhovo area. An hour later, the Ukrainian formations began to move towards the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in Nesteryanka, trying to bypass it from two sides, but the attack bogged down and the enemy retreated to their original positions.

During the fighting in the area, about 10 Ukrainian servicemen were captured, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have losses in military equipment and personnel. The enemy made no more active offensive attempts.

Nevertheless, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to transfer forces. Crews of UAVs of the 44th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting reconnaissance of the area and reconnaissance of the positions of the RF Armed Forces on the line of contact.

Ukrainian forces continued to shell the territory of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and Energodar from positions in Marganets and Nikopol on the northern bank of the Dnieper.

On the Krivoy Rog direction:

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering personnel and equipment of the 60th Opbr Brigade in the area of Knyazevka and Topolinoye for the subsequent attack on Novovoznesenskoye.

At the same time, two companies of the 97th battalion of the 60th brigade and several tanks from the 17th brigade are planning to storm strongholds in Arkhangelsk.

In the evening, the Russian Armed Forces launched several missile attacks on the Karachunovskaya dam in Krivoy Rog, partially destroying it, after which the water began to rise in the Ingulets River.

This, in turn, will make it more difficult for Ukrainian formations to transfer reserves across the river in this sector of the front.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:56 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Ukraine will ensure the Geneva Conventions are adhered to.



Aren't you the one who was bragging the Uks don't take POW, just like the "tough" Aussies?
Aren't you the one who cheered watching videos of Rs POW's been shot on the legs before getting tortured?
Weren't the Rs who first let the International Red Cross to visit Uks POWs (the azovs) as per Geneva Convention, whereas the Uks never did?

You are irreparable. :shock:


Sorry but I don't condone war crimes, and I also condemn the Australian SAS for doing what it did. But a SAS unit is small and has clear orders and objectives, and POWs can result in failure. SAS don't do Mission Failure very well.

The only time I can excuse it is if the commander would put himself or his men at risk because of these POWs. And the Ukrainians may have in the past found themselves in such a position, and may find themselves in such a position in the ffuture.

But generally speaking, if you have the resources to take POWs and send them to the rear where they can be safetly processed, fed, given a smoke and a drink, and then go for somekind of enhanced interrogation for intelligence gathering, then so be it. War is an ugly beast and these Russians are in someone elses country, killing, looting and committing crimes.

Russia started this war, in someone else's land, and as a result will be on the receiving end of some very pissed off Ukrainian Soldiers.


I didn't ask for another stupid essay! I was very specific to my questions, which pinpointed the fact that you are talking too much nonsense


Well I'm pretty sorry. I gave you a very thorough explanation as to why I believe 100% that Ukraine will win. Every American and NATO military commander believes this. Every Ukrainian commander believes this.

It is your problem you can't see it. You can't see it because you are a victim of propaganda, and also of wishful thinking and jingoism.

I never had any such mindset. And I can see it coming. No country has ever defeated a country of 44 million people through invasion and conquest and right now, Ukraine is running circles around you as you cling to your final hopes.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:02 pm

And here is where it gets more interesting for you losers. The Ukrainians have insurgents and guerillas deep inside the occupied and are meticulously executing Russian Collaborators. Every day, people are being killed like the dogs they are. Just like EOKA with the British.

Now, everyone is scared to even be seen speaking to a Russian Soldier or official. That is enough toi get you killed.

Basically, it's literally over. Whether you like it or not, it doesn't bother me. It's your problem.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:03 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Ukraine will ensure the Geneva Conventions are adhered to.



Aren't you the one who was bragging the Uks don't take POW, just like the "tough" Aussies?
Aren't you the one who cheered watching videos of Rs POW's been shot on the legs before getting tortured?
Weren't the Rs who first let the International Red Cross to visit Uks POWs (the azovs) as per Geneva Convention, whereas the Uks never did?

You are irreparable. :shock:


Sorry but I don't condone war crimes, and I also condemn the Australian SAS for doing what it did. But a SAS unit is small and has clear orders and objectives, and POWs can result in failure. SAS don't do Mission Failure very well.

The only time I can excuse it is if the commander would put himself or his men at risk because of these POWs. And the Ukrainians may have in the past found themselves in such a position, and may find themselves in such a position in the ffuture.

But generally speaking, if you have the resources to take POWs and send them to the rear where they can be safetly processed, fed, given a smoke and a drink, and then go for somekind of enhanced interrogation for intelligence gathering, then so be it. War is an ugly beast and these Russians are in someone elses country, killing, looting and committing crimes.

Russia started this war, in someone else's land, and as a result will be on the receiving end of some very pissed off Ukrainian Soldiers.


I didn't ask for another stupid essay! I was very specific to my questions, which pinpointed the fact that you are talking too much nonsense


Well I'm pretty sorry. I gave you a very thorough explanation as to why I believe 100% that Ukraine will win. Every American and NATO military commander believes this. Every Ukrainian commander believes this.

It is your problem you can't see it. You can't see it because you are a victim of propaganda, and also of wishful thinking and jingoism.

I never had any such mindset. And I can see it coming. No country has ever defeated a country of 44 million people through invasion and conquest and right now, Ukraine is running circles around you as you cling to your final hopes.


Remind me again what was the issue in hand Paphitis?
It's funny watching you twisting like a fish on the hook.
Don't worry I won't fry you, I may actually let you go...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:05 pm

Paphitis, SHUT UP and get the fuck out of the US while you still can... because it’s not a good sign when Medvedev starts quoting John the Baptist and the pale horse!

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:Paphitis, SHUT UP and get the fuck out of the US while you still can... because it’s not a good sign when Medvedev starts quoting John the Baptist and the pale horse!

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Sorry, but we are loving it in the US and actually love what the country stands for.

It is delivering JUSTICE to the invaders. Justice is inescapable. Russia could not win in Afghanistan, so there is no hell they will win in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:15 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Ukraine will ensure the Geneva Conventions are adhered to.



Aren't you the one who was bragging the Uks don't take POW, just like the "tough" Aussies?
Aren't you the one who cheered watching videos of Rs POW's been shot on the legs before getting tortured?
Weren't the Rs who first let the International Red Cross to visit Uks POWs (the azovs) as per Geneva Convention, whereas the Uks never did?

You are irreparable. :shock:


Sorry but I don't condone war crimes, and I also condemn the Australian SAS for doing what it did. But a SAS unit is small and has clear orders and objectives, and POWs can result in failure. SAS don't do Mission Failure very well.

The only time I can excuse it is if the commander would put himself or his men at risk because of these POWs. And the Ukrainians may have in the past found themselves in such a position, and may find themselves in such a position in the ffuture.

But generally speaking, if you have the resources to take POWs and send them to the rear where they can be safetly processed, fed, given a smoke and a drink, and then go for somekind of enhanced interrogation for intelligence gathering, then so be it. War is an ugly beast and these Russians are in someone elses country, killing, looting and committing crimes.

Russia started this war, in someone else's land, and as a result will be on the receiving end of some very pissed off Ukrainian Soldiers.


I didn't ask for another stupid essay! I was very specific to my questions, which pinpointed the fact that you are talking too much nonsense


Well I'm pretty sorry. I gave you a very thorough explanation as to why I believe 100% that Ukraine will win. Every American and NATO military commander believes this. Every Ukrainian commander believes this.

It is your problem you can't see it. You can't see it because you are a victim of propaganda, and also of wishful thinking and jingoism.

I never had any such mindset. And I can see it coming. No country has ever defeated a country of 44 million people through invasion and conquest and right now, Ukraine is running circles around you as you cling to your final hopes.


Remind me again what was the issue in hand Paphitis?
It's funny watching you twisting like a fish on the hook.
Don't worry I won't fry you, I may actually let you go...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I have ALWAYS maintained Ukraine will win, and I never changed or flynched.

You guys are the fish on the hook, not me. It's you guys with egg on your faces, not me.

You made your beds. My bed, even as a loser, is still the high moral ground. And as such, even a loss is a victory. Not that it will come to that.

You could have made as much fun of me as you liked, but I always knew and believed that Ukraine will win. And I am not some crazy person who invents some shit. I just can't see Ukraine fighting a losing battle but I can see Russia is fighting the losing battle all along.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:56 pm

US Turned Ukraine Into A Dumping Ground for its Obsolete Weapons
https://geopolitics.co/2022/09/15/us-tu ... e-weapons/

Putin used only a small part of his huge army in Ukraine
https://theinteldrop.org/2022/09/14/whi ... n-ukraine/

Full speed towards World War III
https://theinteldrop.org/2022/09/14/bid ... ment-melt/

The Kharkov Game-Changer
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/the-kharkov-game-changer/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:14 pm

Londonrake wrote:I’ve been reading a lot these past few days that one of Putin’s biggest headaches is the Russian nationalists who’s support he courted so astutely leading up to the invasion. They’ve been free to express their views in the media throughout. Now though, with the Kiev debacle and recent further setbacks, they are turning against him.

The concern is that, in the event of a Russian collapse, rather than somebody like Navalny taking over it will more likely be an extreme nationalist.

A case of better the Devil you know perhaps.


Nope. It really doesn't matter who will take over. Pootin is an evil man. To have an even more evil man makes no difference.

Russian Military has been taken back at least 20 years.

they will not be invading anyone in the short term, and if they are smart, they won't be invading Ukraine ever again or any other country for that matter.

Cue the idiots who will threaten a Tactical Nuclear Strike. Extremely unlikely. That would be insane, and a very big gamble on Russia's very existence.

Let them have the biggest dictatorial fascist pig. He will inherit a military that is incapable to fight Kazakhstan let alone NATO.

Personally, I think the longer this demoralisation defeat goes on, the more likely Russian Citizens and perhaps the Russian Military will storm the Kremlin with pitched forks. This could be the Russian people's best chance to take over their country and bring Russia to the 21st century. Most Russians under the age of 40, know their country is shit. They know they are being cheated. They actually want what we all have. They are all online, most are educated and have minds of their own.

Those over 40, are brainwashed drongos. They are lost people. Hate driven like some forumers here. Forget about them. Russian youth will put them in their place. That day is coming too.

I have no issue with good Russians at all. In the end, they will take matters into their own hands. This Russian Regime will not go on forever. They will collapse again like they did in 1991.
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