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[Lordo]

The size of the "liberated" territory according to different western propaganda networks today...

Guardian: "Ukrainian forces have taken back 2,400 square miles of Russian-held territory"

Euronews: "Kyiv claims to have recaptured 500 km2 from Russia in southern Ukraine"

Al Jazeera: "Zelenskyy says 6,000sq km of territory retaken in Ukraine blitz"

BBC: "Ukraine says it has made significant gains in pushing back Russian troops, retaking more than 3,000 sq km (1,158 sq miles) of territory"

At least they all agree to be clueless!

They should have asked me. It's about 8,500 -10,000 sq
km.
Russians don't have enough troops to even secure the front lines let aside the back.
They only rely on massive artillery strikes from a limited number of soldiers "fighting" from a distance. They don't even have enough infantry to do mop up operations and rely exclusively on PMC group. This is not how wars are fought. What happened to them is similar to what happened to the Greeks in 1922. Let's hope Putin or someone else finally makes the right decision.

Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.

If Russia takes the whole of the Black Sea shoreline, it will make Ukraine a landlocked country and this war will never end. They should stick to the original plan and take the two regions they said they would and stop there.
The Russians have taken 125,000 Km2 of land. With 100,000 soldiers leaves them with less than 1 soldier per Km2. That is no defence. Time to re-think the strategy of what they really want to achieve.

[Kikapu]

The size of the "liberated" territory according to different western propaganda networks today...

Guardian: "Ukrainian forces have taken back 2,400 square miles of Russian-held territory"

Euronews: "Kyiv claims to have recaptured 500 km2 from Russia in southern Ukraine"

Al Jazeera: "Zelenskyy says 6,000sq km of territory retaken in Ukraine blitz"

BBC: "Ukraine says it has made significant gains in pushing back Russian troops, retaking more than 3,000 sq km (1,158 sq miles) of territory"

At least they all agree to be clueless!

They should have asked me. It's about 8,500 -10,000 sq
km.
Russians don't have enough troops to even secure the front lines let aside the back.
They only rely on massive artillery strikes from a limited number of soldiers "fighting" from a distance. They don't even have enough infantry to do mop up operations and rely exclusively on PMC group. This is not how wars are fought. What happened to them is similar to what happened to the Greeks in 1922. Let's hope Putin or someone else finally makes the right decision.

Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.

If Russia takes the whole of the Black Sea shoreline, it will make Ukraine a landlocked country and this war will never end. They should stick to the original plan and take the two regions they said they would and stop there.
The Russians have taken 125,000 Km2 of land. With 100,000 soldiers leaves them with less than 1 soldier per Km2. That is no defence. Time to re-think the strategy of what they really want to achieve.

The idea for Russia taking all of Ukraine’s coastline is to discourage NATO making Ukraine a member. NATO wants as much access as possible in the Black Sea close to Russia and Ukraine would provide that.

The war will go on one way or the other no matter what the way things are going!

[Londonrake]

The idea for Russia taking all of Ukraine’s coastline is to discourage NATO making Ukraine a member. NATO wants as much access as possible in the Black Sea close to Russia and Ukraine would provide that.

Although, as a result of the law of unintended consequences, the entire Baltic has - like the Med - in essence now become a NATO lake

[Pyrpolizer]

The idea for Russia taking all of Ukraine’s coastline is to discourage NATO making Ukraine a member. NATO wants as much access as possible in the Black Sea close to Russia and Ukraine would provide that.

The war will go on one way or the other no matter what the way things are going!

Nato (better say America itself) already has a lot of access to the Black sea through Poland, Bulgaria and Turkey.
What they wanted Ukraine for was to have 1300 Km LAND borders with Russia and the reason was to be as close as possible to their nuclear ballistic missiles, before they get the chance to become supersonic and non imperceptible. (they need a lot of time to get that speed)
Now assuming the Russians would take the whole of Ukraine's coastline , would simply turn Ukraine to a rather poor country, but they would still make it a Nato territory without official membership. Remember Turkey was even more poor when it became a member. So were most of the Ex-soviet republics.
Ukraine is already unofficially Nato territory, 58 billion of weapons from America alone ...

[Pyrpolizer]

What makes me angry is that Russia; with their half-hearted pussyfooting invasion, has gravely endangered thousands of Russophone Ukrainians of the east, who have had to endure 8 years of shelling from their own government, and now have to face the repercussions of the now even more emboldened and vengeful Ukrainian military who will brand them “collaborators” for welcoming what they thought were their permanent liberators!

In other words, these people were damned pre-invasion and are now even more damned!

And the international community doesn’t give a rat’s arse about them!

If you were not prepared to give these people a permanent solution then why did you go there Russia?

Russia now has a MORAL OBLIGATION to get back in there and sort this mess out!

Donbas was relatively peaceful until Vladimir Putin decided he didn’t like the idea of renting Sevastopol but would rather own it. At which juncture he tore up the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership with Ukraine, invading and annexing Crimea. He then armed and militarily supported the Donbas separatists, who seized government buildings in the oblast, declaring Donetsk and Luhansk independent republics. Russia continued a campaign of support in the region with the objective of destabilizing the country. That’s when the real bloodshed started.

Apart from some basically token economic sanctions Putin in essence got away with it.

And 8 years later, here we are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014–2022)

It’s never paid to appease dictators. You would think we’d have learned that lesson by now..

We’re entering a very dangerous phase in this war.

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Clearly you haven't been following the news in 2021, during which time Russia's concerns and really generous proposals including lots of rewards for Ukraine itself, were constantly mocked and rejected by everybody, while Stoltenberg himself was assigned the role of humiliating Russia.
This war would never happen if there was the minimum understanding to Russia.
It was all about Nato expansion.

[Lordo]

The size of the "liberated" territory according to different western propaganda networks today...

Guardian: "Ukrainian forces have taken back 2,400 square miles of Russian-held territory"

Euronews: "Kyiv claims to have recaptured 500 km2 from Russia in southern Ukraine"

Al Jazeera: "Zelenskyy says 6,000sq km of territory retaken in Ukraine blitz"

BBC: "Ukraine says it has made significant gains in pushing back Russian troops, retaking more than 3,000 sq km (1,158 sq miles) of territory"

At least they all agree to be clueless!

They should have asked me. It's about 8,500 -10,000 sq
km.
Russians don't have enough troops to even secure the front lines let aside the back.
They only rely on massive artillery strikes from a limited number of soldiers "fighting" from a distance. They don't even have enough infantry to do mop up operations and rely exclusively on PMC group. This is not how wars are fought. What happened to them is similar to what happened to the Greeks in 1922. Let's hope Putin or someone else finally makes the right decision.

Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.

If Russia takes the whole of the Black Sea shoreline, it will make Ukraine a landlocked country and this war will never end. They should stick to the original plan and take the two regions they said they would and stop there.
The Russians have taken 125,000 Km2 of land. With 100,000 soldiers leaves them with less than 1 soldier per Km2. That is no defence. Time to re-think the strategy of what they really want to achieve.

The idea for Russia taking all of Ukraine’s coastline is to discourage NATO making Ukraine a member. NATO wants as much access as possible in the Black Sea close to Russia and Ukraine would provide that.

The war will go on one way or the other no matter what the way things are going!

Noooooooooo
You are over thinking it.
Nato already has plenty of access to the Black Sea.

[Kikapu]

The size of the "liberated" territory according to different western propaganda networks today...

Guardian: "Ukrainian forces have taken back 2,400 square miles of Russian-held territory"

Euronews: "Kyiv claims to have recaptured 500 km2 from Russia in southern Ukraine"

Al Jazeera: "Zelenskyy says 6,000sq km of territory retaken in Ukraine blitz"

BBC: "Ukraine says it has made significant gains in pushing back Russian troops, retaking more than 3,000 sq km (1,158 sq miles) of territory"

At least they all agree to be clueless!

They should have asked me. It's about 8,500 -10,000 sq
km.
Russians don't have enough troops to even secure the front lines let aside the back.
They only rely on massive artillery strikes from a limited number of soldiers "fighting" from a distance. They don't even have enough infantry to do mop up operations and rely exclusively on PMC group. This is not how wars are fought. What happened to them is similar to what happened to the Greeks in 1922. Let's hope Putin or someone else finally makes the right decision.

Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.

If Russia takes the whole of the Black Sea shoreline, it will make Ukraine a landlocked country and this war will never end. They should stick to the original plan and take the two regions they said they would and stop there.
The Russians have taken 125,000 Km2 of land. With 100,000 soldiers leaves them with less than 1 soldier per Km2. That is no defence. Time to re-think the strategy of what they really want to achieve.

The idea for Russia taking all of Ukraine’s coastline is to discourage NATO making Ukraine a member. NATO wants as much access as possible in the Black Sea close to Russia and Ukraine would provide that.

The war will go on one way or the other no matter what the way things are going!

Noooooooooo
You are over thinking it.
Nato already has plenty of access to the Black Sea.

Yes but, not close to Crimea.

[Lordo]

Why do they have to be close to Crimea? are they planning to do the Sirto dance or something.

No matter where the Americans fire their weapons from, unless they intend to take out the whole Russian Nuclear capability in one moment, distance will not make any difference to them.

And of course Nuclear weapons cannot be and will not be used.

[Paphitis]

Kherson collapse imminent now.

Ukraine moves forward victoriously, as Russian collaborators are running away leaving Ukraine for good.

Any Russian speakers who either support Ukraine (there are many) or regret and wish to stay in Ukraine peacefully as Ukrainians, working for Ukrainians are obviously welcome to be a part of the Ukraine State and are safe and sound. No Russian speaker should fear the Ukrainian Forces unless they are a war criminal or collaborated with Russia. Anyone who has betrayed Ukraine and collaborated with Russia in any form, should leave for their safety and safety of their families.

It's obvious that these people hate Ukraine, and therefore need to leave and go back to Russia where they are safe.

[Paphitis]

More glorious footage of the destruction of the Russian Military in Ukraine