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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:14 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The size of the "liberated" territory according to different western propaganda networks today...

Guardian: "Ukrainian forces have taken back 2,400 square miles of Russian-held territory"

Euronews: "Kyiv claims to have recaptured 500 km2 from Russia in southern Ukraine"

Al Jazeera: "Zelenskyy says 6,000sq km of territory retaken in Ukraine blitz"

BBC: "Ukraine says it has made significant gains in pushing back Russian troops, retaking more than 3,000 sq km (1,158 sq miles) of territory"

At least they all agree to be clueless! :lol:



They should have asked me. :wink: It's about 8,500 -10,000 sq
km.
Russians don't have enough troops to even secure the front lines let aside the back.
They only rely on massive artillery strikes from a limited number of soldiers "fighting" from a distance. They don't even have enough infantry to do mop up operations and rely exclusively on PMC group. This is not how wars are fought. What happened to them is similar to what happened to the Greeks in 1922. Let's hope Putin or someone else finally makes the right decision.


Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:01 pm

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Surely Russia's interest in Ukraine has to do with areas that matters the most, which is Ukrainian coastal along the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, which means concentrating in capturing Odessa and not worry about the NE of Ukraine which is now taken back by the Ukrainians.


I never believed the Russians were aiming at taking the Kharkiv city (ppl 1.2 million) which is practically impossible considering the Ukrainians proved they can fight from within towns or small cities for a long long time. Secondly the Russians proved they don’t have enough troops to even hold cities they have already taken.
I actually thought they were holding that area in Kharkiv district as a negotiating card for the future. But abandoning huge area of 8.5-10K sq. Km almost with no resistance, is nothing less that a disaster. Notice they did the exact same thing around Kiev before, abandoning 3-4 times as much territory!

Odesa (~1m ppl) will never be taken Kiks, for the exact same reason. The Russians don’t have enough troops and they want to keep loses at the minimum possible, by fighting from a distance.
Heck the Russians can hardly keep small cities and areas they have taken before because of the lack of troops. And it’s not only the front line, it looks they have nothing at the back, so if the front line breaks everything will be lost just as fast as the Kharkiv region….

Russian channels in Telegram keep warning all day that unless Putin wakes up realizing this is not a Special Military Operation anymore, but actually a war between Russia and Nato with the Ukrainians as manpower, and declare it as such, mobilizing the whole nation, not only they will lose the war in Ukraine extremely fast, but also risk their own existence as a State.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:37 pm

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The situation in the Mykolaiv-Krivoy Rog direction
as of 13.00 September 13, 2022

At the moment, the front line has remained unchanged. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fixed on previously occupied lines and are regrouping forces before another attempt to attack Russian positions.

On the Andreevsky sector, the Ukrainian command is strengthening the defense in Lozovoe in preparation for another attack on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces. The main direction for the strike is Bruskinskoe and Kostromka to blockade the road communication of Davydov Brod and Novaya Kakhovka.

Ukrainian howitzers and MLRS are firing at Belogorka, simultaneously transferring reinforcements to this sector of the front.

More than 50 units of military equipment have been deployed in the vicinity of Lozovoye through the crossings at Veliky Artakovo, Belaya Krinitsa and Ternovka.

Units of the 46th oambr of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are rotating military personnel and removing minefields in the area of one kilometer south of Andreevka to advance in the vicinity of Sukhoi Stavka.

On the Posad-Pokrovsky section, a company of the 10th battalion of the 59th Ompbr, reinforced by two units of armored vehicles, attempted to attack Ternovye Pody. However, the artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out a massive shelling of the Ukrainian troops, after which the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated to their original positions.

To restore the combat readiness of the brigade units at the turn of the Red Banner - Ternovye Pody, personnel are being rotated, and a mechanized platoon has been transferred to Zarya.

In addition, five columns of military equipment advanced from the Kulbakino area in the direction of the contact line.

In the next 24 hours, the offensive on Ternovye Pody and Petrovskoye is expected to be continued by the BTGr 59th brigade and 28th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Despite the information in social networks, statements about the transfer of Kiselevka under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not true. There, units of the RF Armed Forces are still holding the same positions.

It is relatively calm in the Snigirevsky sector: the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not attempt to attack.

There are no major changes in the Olginsky section. The units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are strengthening the occupied defense lines and are preparing for further advance towards Lyubimovka.

The Ukrainian command uses advanced gunners in Novovoznesenskoye to target Russian positions. Artillery and MLRS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are firing from the Topolinoye area at Chereshneve, Novovoskresensky, Mirolyubovka and Kreshchenivka.

A company of the 97th battalion of the 60th brigade dug in in the forest belt northwest of Novovoznesensky with the further goal of securing in the Novopetrovka area.

Representatives of the British media arrived at Ukrainian strongholds on this sector of the front to shoot staged reports about the "successful offensive" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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The British hypocrites as usual. Where were they the last 6 months?
But hey the Russians could not even make their voice heard about the Ukrainians War crime of shelling the ZNPP, and you expect them to do anything now? Russia's PR grade = 0
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:34 pm

Impressive work by the Russian channels in Telegram, which cooperate with each other, and provide information directly from the ground. The following was posted in sashakots.
I don’t know for which of the 3 Kyselivka towns he is talking about in the end, but if that’s the one in Kherson then even the excellent and trusty Rybar map designer (RE:my latest map link), got it wrong this time. It’s located on the front line straight up from Kherson city


Again, a lot of questions from subscribers. In order, for now:

Kreminna is ours, no one left from there, no Ukrainian units entered there.

Svatove is ours. Nobody escaped from there. A small part of the local residents left.

Krasny Liman is ours. Some reserves were transferred there. Most of the residents have been evacuated. As well as from Yampil.

Svyatohirsk is in the gray zone. A reconnaissance group of pravosekov came there. They unfolded a red and black rag at the entrance to the stele and walked through the empty streets of one of the districts. It is not yet occupied by the enemy, but we do not completely control it either.

In Zaporozhye, along the entire line of contact - the movement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Pull up reserves. I have already suggested that the fuss near Ugledar may be a distraction from the main attack, for example, in Zaporozhye. It may not be. Maybe the enemy is preparing two strikes.

Kyselivka, according to a colleague from that direction, is also ours.

A lot of fakes are being thrown in now, they are shaking the information. Be careful.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:44 pm

What makes me angry is that Russia; with their half-hearted pussyfooting invasion, has gravely endangered thousands of Russophone Ukrainians of the east, who have had to endure 8 years of shelling from their own government, and now have to face the repercussions of the now even more emboldened and vengeful Ukrainian military who will brand them “collaborators” for welcoming what they thought were their permanent liberators!

In other words, these people were damned pre-invasion and are now even more damned!

And the international community doesn’t give a rat’s arse about them!

If you were not prepared to give these people a permanent solution then why did you go there Russia?

Russia now has a MORAL OBLIGATION to get back in there and sort this mess out!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:50 pm

Bueatiful footage of Ukrainian Special Ops Forces operating deep inside occupied territory.

Few words can describe these ops:

Professional
Command and Control
Disciplined
Each man having the backs of their comrades

This is an army that leaves no one behind. They expertly ambush a Russian Armoured Vehicle, and nuetralised it efficiently before going back in the woods. There must be hundreds of Ukrainian Infantry there just waiting for their push into Sveiriedonetsk.

These troops are well trained elite soldiers which have their right of place with the world's best - whether US Seals, or Australian or British SAS, Ghurkas. These guys are skilled and Ukraine should be very proud of these boys.

I guess there is nowhere to hide now for the Russians. Ukraine is winning the psychological battle front. Every Russian soldier now knows this is unwinnable. They now know, their next steps could be their last. No wonder the want to retreat, surrender and abandon their posts.

RIP Russia. Slava Ukraine.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:01 pm

Another example how Russian telegram channels cooperate. A small channel from a soldier on the ground promoted by a bigger one. Deleted the links as I don’t like watching corpses.

I RISK - WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW (https…..)

Finally, a real soldier who leads a large channel from the scene ??

Tired of fake news and referrals? Watch the video , make sure and subscribe for real to the exclusive channel .

Today, the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to break into Kherson, but their attempts were in vain. 240 corpses of crests, very hard shots, not for the faint of heart.

Exclusive photos and videos taken by me, which you will not see anywhere else.

Link to my channel:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:05 pm

It’s the corpses of those “Gerkas” Paphitis is bragging about! :lol:

Where's that link Pyro?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:What makes me angry is that Russia; with their half-hearted pussyfooting invasion, has gravely endangered thousands of Russophone Ukrainians of the east, who have had to endure 8 years of shelling from their own government, and now have to face the repercussions of the now even more emboldened and vengeful Ukrainian military who will brand them “collaborators” for welcoming what they thought were their permanent liberators!

In other words, these people were damned pre-invasion and are now even more damned!

And the international community doesn’t give a rat’s arse about them!

If you were not prepared to give these people a permanent solution then why did you go there Russia?

Russia now has a MORAL OBLIGATION to get back in there and sort this mess out!


The known 'collaborators" will obviously go to Russia. Then the Ukrainians will have the same problem the Russians have now, learn who is Russian and who is Ukrainian as they all speak both languages (actually I heard the two languages are the same only differ on the accent).
I am sure the Russians will provide them a lot of riffles to protect themselves in case of abuse.
Probably Ukraine will end up to something like the old far West and get destabilized from inside.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:What makes me angry is that Russia; with their half-hearted pussyfooting invasion, has gravely endangered thousands of Russophone Ukrainians of the east, who have had to endure 8 years of shelling from their own government, and now have to face the repercussions of the now even more emboldened and vengeful Ukrainian military who will brand them “collaborators” for welcoming what they thought were their permanent liberators!

In other words, these people were damned pre-invasion and are now even more damned!

And the international community doesn’t give a rat’s arse about them!

If you were not prepared to give these people a permanent solution then why did you go there Russia?

Russia now has a MORAL OBLIGATION to get back in there and sort this mess out!


Donbas was relatively peaceful until Vladimir Putin decided he didn’t like the idea of renting Sevastopol but would rather own it. At which juncture he tore up the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership with Ukraine, invading and annexing Crimea. He then armed and militarily supported the Donbas separatists, who seized government buildings in the oblast, declaring Donetsk and Luhansk independent republics. Russia continued a campaign of support in the region with the objective of destabilizing the country. That’s when the real bloodshed started.

Apart from some basically token economic sanctions Putin in essence got away with it.

And 8 years later, here we are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014–2022)

It’s never paid to appease dictators. You would think we’d have learned that lesson by now..

We’re entering a very dangerous phase in this war. :(

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