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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:If you fucking think Russia can beat America with all the tech it has and constellation of satellites then you got another thing coming. The Americans will know when their ICBMs are being fuelled, and by that time, US missiles will already be flying.


Get out of here. LondonRocky's tricks are old news.
If you want to counter MY arguments then make sure they are MY arguments not someone else's.

You may argue with GR about nuclear Armagedon ad nauseam for all I care...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:43 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In the meantime the Russians seem totally absent from the area.

:roll: Oh Pyro, you never learn... how do you suppose the Kherson corridor trap was created?

It's exactly the same Russian tactic of withdrawing from little settlements to suck in the happy Ukie forces deep into captured territory and then close off the top and incinerate them! :lol:


No the Russians didn't plan any trap in Kherson , nor did they plan anything in the Izyum area.
They certainly didn't plan losing an SU-25 there in just 24 hours, nor did they plan blowing up all bridges to Balakliya town of 25K which is now encircled and isolated from 3 sides... The situation in Izyum is serious, trust my words...


Oh, so the delusions are withering.

Welcome to the real world.

You better believe the situation is serious. And maybe one day we will welcome you with a softer side and sympathy towards the plight of the Ukrainians in their own country.

Any updates on the fall of Bakhmout? How is that going for the Russians? Surely they must be getting close?


No delusions at all. I always knew there was a problem concerning the number of Russian troops.
I always knew that massive artillery strikes are not enough Vs an enemy who has a million+ to spare.
Having completed my military service, I know damn well that Artillery and Air strikes should be followed by tanks and then infantry. The Russians (and the Americans in other places as e.g. in Iraq) don't do that. They instead use their superiority in the air, or artillery to "fight" safely. I also know that taking towns means street fighting which is extremely difficult especially when the enemy hides inside the buildings just like what the Ukrainians do.
What we are now witnessing in Izyum is the result of all that Russian deficiency in personnel...

I was always in favor of the Russians. I will never feel sympathy for the Ukrainians, having developed a Nazi state that was attacking, torturing, raping, robbing and suppressing the Russian majority in the East and South to the point of even getting punished of speaking their own language. I do hope the Ukrainians will lose all territory which was never theirs on the first place.

The Ukrainians ARE NOT FIGHTING for their lands, they are fighting for lands that were never theirs. They are not fighting for their freedom or civil liberties either as the Russians did not expel any minority of Ukrainians from the East. The worst advice any one could give to the Russians would be to take the whole of Ukraine. They won't. They will take only as much as they need.

Do you know anything of Greek History Paphitis? Where did the Greek revolution start from? Didn't the "Filiki Etaireia" start in Odessa by Greek-Russians? Did it ever start in "Ukraine" for Christ sake????
Was Mariupol, Melitoupol, Odessa, Sevastoupol, Oleksandrivka (Μαριουπολη, Μελιτουπολη, Οδησσος, Σεβαστουπολη, Αλεξανδρουπολη) ever Ukrainian just to name a few? Were they always Russian towns with Greek Russian speakers yes or no?

Ukrainian imish... Really?



Oh is that all.

That’s not the only thing wrong with the Russian military.

It was always just a matter of time before the Russians give up. The only way Russia could one was to deal that massive blow to the Ukrainian government within 2 weeks.

Russia failed and retreated. I predicted the failure from day 1 but when the Russians were on the outskirts of Kyiv, I was very worried.

But even then, Ukriaiabs would have continued to fight.

And when you face an enemy like that, it’s a war that can’t be won.

It could have been the Americans. I do not believe the US Military can beat an enemy like that in their own country.

But the Americans have one big advantage. They are far more disciplined than the Russians and they would have lost a fraction of what the Russians have in manpower and equipment. America doesn’t fight wars in this way.

There is no doubt in my mind that America is better equiped, has better soldiers and has 100 times better logistics and Command and Control.

Oh well. Pootin miscalculated and thought the west was going to cower. Big mistake. The west learned from the errors of the past and recognised they are to blame. They realised that Pootin needed to meet his end in Ukraine otherwise the west would have paid a big price.

The west is talking Pootin’s lingo. Now Pootin is backed into a corner fighting a losing war.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In the meantime the Russians seem totally absent from the area.

:roll: Oh Pyro, you never learn... how do you suppose the Kherson corridor trap was created?

It's exactly the same Russian tactic of withdrawing from little settlements to suck in the happy Ukie forces deep into captured territory and then close off the top and incinerate them! :lol:


No the Russians didn't plan any trap in Kherson , nor did they plan anything in the Izyum area.
They certainly didn't plan losing an SU-25 there in just 24 hours, nor did they plan blowing up all bridges to Balakliya town of 25K which is now encircled and isolated from 3 sides... The situation in Izyum is serious, trust my words...


Oh, so the delusions are withering.

Welcome to the real world.

You better believe the situation is serious. And maybe one day we will welcome you with a softer side and sympathy towards the plight of the Ukrainians in their own country.

Any updates on the fall of Bakhmout? How is that going for the Russians? Surely they must be getting close?


No delusions at all. I always knew there was a problem concerning the number of Russian troops.
I always knew that massive artillery strikes are not enough Vs an enemy who has a million+ to spare.
Having completed my military service, I know damn well that Artillery and Air strikes should be followed by tanks and then infantry. The Russians (and the Americans in other places as e.g. in Iraq) don't do that. They instead use their superiority in the air, or artillery to "fight" safely. I also know that taking towns means street fighting which is extremely difficult especially when the enemy hides inside the buildings just like what the Ukrainians do.
What we are now witnessing in Izyum is the result of all that Russian deficiency in personnel...

I was always in favor of the Russians. I will never feel sympathy for the Ukrainians, having developed a Nazi state that was attacking, torturing, raping, robbing and suppressing the Russian majority in the East and South to the point of even getting punished of speaking their own language. I do hope the Ukrainians will lose all territory which was never theirs on the first place.

The Ukrainians ARE NOT FIGHTING for their lands, they are fighting for lands that were never theirs. They are not fighting for their freedom or civil liberties either as the Russians did not expel any minority of Ukrainians from the East. The worst advice any one could give to the Russians would be to take the whole of Ukraine. They won't. They will take only as much as they need.

Do you know anything of Greek History Paphitis? Where did the Greek revolution start from? Didn't the "Filiki Etaireia" start in Odessa by Greek-Russians? Did it ever start in "Ukraine" for Christ sake????
Was Mariupol, Melitoupol, Odessa, Sevastoupol, Oleksandrivka (Μαριουπολη, Μελιτουπολη, Οδησσος, Σεβαστουπολη, Αλεξανδρουπολη) ever Ukrainian just to name a few? Were they always Russian towns with Greek Russian speakers yes or no?

Ukrainian imish... Really?



Oh is that all.

That’s not the only thing wrong with the Russian military.

It was always just a matter of time before the Russians give up. The only way Russia could one was to deal that massive blow to the Ukrainian government within 2 weeks.

Russia failed and retreated. I predicted the failure from day 1 but when the Russians were on the outskirts of Kyiv, I was very worried.

But even then, Ukriaiabs would have continued to fight.

And when you face an enemy like that, it’s a war that can’t be won.

It could have been the Americans. I do not believe the US Military can beat an enemy like that in their own country.

But the Americans have one big advantage. They are far more disciplined than the Russians and they would have lost a fraction of what the Russians have in manpower and equipment. America doesn’t fight wars in this way.

There is no doubt in my mind that America is better equiped, has better soldiers and has 100 times better logistics and Command and Control.


Remind me again when was the last time the American soldiers have been tested on the ground? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:53 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In the meantime the Russians seem totally absent from the area.

:roll: Oh Pyro, you never learn... how do you suppose the Kherson corridor trap was created?

It's exactly the same Russian tactic of withdrawing from little settlements to suck in the happy Ukie forces deep into captured territory and then close off the top and incinerate them! :lol:


No the Russians didn't plan any trap in Kherson , nor did they plan anything in the Izyum area.
They certainly didn't plan losing an SU-25 there in just 24 hours, nor did they plan blowing up all bridges to Balakliya town of 25K which is now encircled and isolated from 3 sides... The situation in Izyum is serious, trust my words...


Oh, so the delusions are withering.

Welcome to the real world.

You better believe the situation is serious. And maybe one day we will welcome you with a softer side and sympathy towards the plight of the Ukrainians in their own country.

Any updates on the fall of Bakhmout? How is that going for the Russians? Surely they must be getting close?


No delusions at all. I always knew there was a problem concerning the number of Russian troops.
I always knew that massive artillery strikes are not enough Vs an enemy who has a million+ to spare.
Having completed my military service, I know damn well that Artillery and Air strikes should be followed by tanks and then infantry. The Russians (and the Americans in other places as e.g. in Iraq) don't do that. They instead use their superiority in the air, or artillery to "fight" safely. I also know that taking towns means street fighting which is extremely difficult especially when the enemy hides inside the buildings just like what the Ukrainians do.
What we are now witnessing in Izyum is the result of all that Russian deficiency in personnel...

I was always in favor of the Russians. I will never feel sympathy for the Ukrainians, having developed a Nazi state that was attacking, torturing, raping, robbing and suppressing the Russian majority in the East and South to the point of even getting punished of speaking their own language. I do hope the Ukrainians will lose all territory which was never theirs on the first place.

The Ukrainians ARE NOT FIGHTING for their lands, they are fighting for lands that were never theirs. They are not fighting for their freedom or civil liberties either as the Russians did not expel any minority of Ukrainians from the East. The worst advice any one could give to the Russians would be to take the whole of Ukraine. They won't. They will take only as much as they need.

Do you know anything of Greek History Paphitis? Where did the Greek revolution start from? Didn't the "Filiki Etaireia" start in Odessa by Greek-Russians? Did it ever start in "Ukraine" for Christ sake????
Was Mariupol, Melitoupol, Odessa, Sevastoupol, Oleksandrivka (Μαριουπολη, Μελιτουπολη, Οδησσος, Σεβαστουπολη, Αλεξανδρουπολη) ever Ukrainian just to name a few? Were they always Russian towns with Greek Russian speakers yes or no?

Ukrainian imish... Really?



Oh is that all.

That’s not the only thing wrong with the Russian military.

It was always just a matter of time before the Russians give up. The only way Russia could one was to deal that massive blow to the Ukrainian government within 2 weeks.

Russia failed and retreated. I predicted the failure from day 1 but when the Russians were on the outskirts of Kyiv, I was very worried.

But even then, Ukriaiabs would have continued to fight.

And when you face an enemy like that, it’s a war that can’t be won.

It could have been the Americans. I do not believe the US Military can beat an enemy like that in their own country.

But the Americans have one big advantage. They are far more disciplined than the Russians and they would have lost a fraction of what the Russians have in manpower and equipment. America doesn’t fight wars in this way.

There is no doubt in my mind that America is better equiped, has better soldiers and has 100 times better logistics and Command and Control.


Remind me again when was the last time the American soldiers have been tested on the ground? :lol: :lol: :lol:



They have been tested.

But you don’t see the point. The Americans will never send 200000 soldiers to fight in trench warfare.

They won’t shell and level towns and cities neither.

The Americans will plan their attacks meticulously to avoid as much fighting as possible.

The last time was Vietnam War. It will never happen again.

The Americans would probably hit high value military targets, communications, Government infrastructure and they would do it with Cruise Missiles, Air Power, Predator Drones, and at most send a Seals and Ranger and control a bridgehead and then fly their troops into the war zone on Galaxy Aurcradt only when they have established their perimeter security.

They won’t send in 2000 Abrams across the border like Russia did and lose 50000 soldiers.

What Russia did was just completely outdated and stupid.

Basically, America wouldn’t put its troops into such a stupid predicament. Clearly, they value their soldiers a hell of a lot more.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:55 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Get out of here. LondonRocky's tricks are old news.

You may argue with GR about nuclear Armagedon ad nauseam for all I care...


Not sure what you mean about "tricks".

There's an odd lexicon on this forum. Highlighting the thousands of Ukranian dead and millions displaced/refugeed due to Russia's invasion of the country is apparently "Whining". Bringing up people's comments on previous posts is "shit stirring".

I don't "argue" about nuclear armageddon with GR. I simply try to point out the actual realities of such an event and the fact that people like you and Kicks sheepishly-like remain silent. Why? Because he doesn't actually have any control over nuclear weapons? What sort of BS argument is that? Grow some. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:59 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In case the US install nukes in Finland, the later will simply turn itself to a target, together with Incirlik.


For half a century now anywhere in the world is within the reach of their adversaries nuclear weapons. The idea of "installing" them in this or that country is really just PR.

A Russian Typhoon or US Ohio class submarine can attack from any ocean location within 10000 miles of its targets. The 2 anytime on-station Ohios can launch missiles with almost 2000 warheads. If they don't get regular VLF broadcasts from their US control centres they're programmed to assume the transmitters destruction and carry out their attack briefs. Russian subs will have similar plans. If you think any sort of "hypersonic" bullshite weapon can stop that then you are a fucking idiot. That's how tenuous our existence has been for decades.

GR's idea of the US being destroyed without consequence is a total fantasy. Hundreds of millions would die and billions starve in the aftermath. How come nobody challenges that? Bizarre. You come across as a bunch of frightened sheep. :?


If you think you know what I think then YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
Don't be scared LondnRocky, I will buy you a teddy bear for your scary nights. :P :P :P
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:01 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In case the US install nukes in Finland, the later will simply turn itself to a target, together with Incirlik.


For half a century now anywhere in the world is within the reach of their adversaries nuclear weapons. The idea of "installing" them in this or that country is really just PR.

A Russian Typhoon or US Ohio class submarine can attack from any ocean location within 10000 miles of its targets. The 2 anytime on-station Ohios can launch missiles with almost 2000 warheads. If they don't get regular VLF broadcasts from their US control centres they're programmed to assume the transmitters destruction and carry out their attack briefs. Russian subs will have similar plans. If you think any sort of "hypersonic" bullshite weapon can stop that then you are a fucking idiot. That's how tenuous our existence has been for decades.

GR's idea of the US being destroyed without consequence is a total fantasy. Hundreds of millions would die and billions starve in the aftermath. How come nobody challenges that? Bizarre. You come across as a bunch of frightened sheep. :?


If you think you know what I think then YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
Don't be scared LondnRocky, I will buy you a teddy bear for your scary nights. :P :P :P


I think you should keep the teddy bear for yourself just to comfort you of your bitch boys failed Ukrainian suicide mission.

There there. One day the nightmares will be over with. It will happen quicker than you think.

VU day could be this side of Christmas. Now there is a prediction.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:04 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:In case the US install nukes in Finland, the later will simply turn itself to a target, together with Incirlik.


For half a century now anywhere in the world is within the reach of their adversaries nuclear weapons. The idea of "installing" them in this or that country is really just PR.

A Russian Typhoon or US Ohio class submarine can attack from any ocean location within 10000 miles of its targets. The 2 anytime on-station Ohios can launch missiles with almost 2000 warheads. If they don't get regular VLF broadcasts from their US control centres they're programmed to assume the transmitters destruction and carry out their attack briefs. Russian subs will have similar plans. If you think any sort of "hypersonic" bullshite weapon can stop that then you are a fucking idiot. That's how tenuous our existence has been for decades.

GR's idea of the US being destroyed without consequence is a total fantasy. Hundreds of millions would die and billions starve in the aftermath. How come nobody challenges that? Bizarre. You come across as a bunch of frightened sheep. :?


If you think you know what I think then YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
Don't be scared LondnRocky, I will buy you a teddy bear for your scary nights. :P :P :P


Sorry..................... know what you think? :?

Be scared? Scared of what?

You should stop insulting people. You've certainly complained enough about such things from others in the past, including me.

Calm down. It's a fact that on the many occasions the great man has earnestly wished a nuclear war on us all you and other supplicants have remained silent on the issue. No? :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:15 pm

May I remind you botched that you can’t actually defeat an enemy that jeeps on fighting.

You only lose when you stop fighting or surrender.

That’s the problem Russia has. It’s disturbed a hornets best and will now die from a thousand hornet stings.

The Ukrainians will not surrender. They will keep fighting because they still have memories of being part of the Soviet Union shit home.

Why do you think they wanted to join NATO and now they want to join the EU. Well my bitches, the Ukies want to be a part of the west and forge ahead with a democratic and liberal country like all the other EU countries have. They don’t want to relive their old nightmares.

And who can blame them? They hate Russia and everything Russia stands for. Who can blame them? I mean seriously, who in their right mind actually likes Russia. Well with the exception of North Korea, Iran, Syria and maybe Cuba, I’m finding it difficult to think of any others. Oh wait, maybe Zimbabwe!

My my! It’s not exactly an impressive or big line up now is it?

It’s ok bitches, it will all be over soon.

Russian soldiers will need to hurry and swim across the river before it gets too cold. Hypothermia is is nasty.

Just leave the keys to all the surviving tanks and vehicles. Ukrainian Army will put them to good use.

Of course, if any Russians can’t swim, they can surrender to the Ukies. There choice. For those who surrender, the Ukies will give them a packet if ciggies and a nice hot soup.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:16 pm

Londonrake wrote:It's a fact that on the many occasions the great man has earnestly wished a nuclear war on us all you and other supplicants have remained silent on the issue. No? :?

:roll: Oh just shut up and die with dignity, you whiny old geezer!
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