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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:Biden makes a dick of himself again…

“Putin may circle [Kiev] with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people.”


He was - and still is - the lesser evil
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:23 pm

Get Real! wrote:Biden makes a dick of himself again…

“Putin may circle [Kiev] with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people.”

:lol:

Allow him that much, Ukrainian and Iranian are very close.

Trump is not even aware who is fighting there. Even after he was told, he thought America landed in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:38 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Biden makes a dick of himself again…

“Putin may circle [Kiev] with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people.”


He was - and still is - the lesser evil

:? Oh I don't know about that... I experienced DEFCON 2 for the first time in my life, thanks to Biden!

By comparison, under Trump the most dangerous day was when the QAnon shaman showed up!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:42 pm

“For now, only one thing is clear: Putin prioritized his personal obsession above Russia’s interests,” Kadri Liik, a senior fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, wrote in the February 25 article War Of Obsession: Why Putin Is Risking Russia’s Future.

Putin’s decision to launch a major military offensive against a country whose people he has said are “one” with Russians may seem like the height of irrationality.

Another possible explanation is that Putin came to see an assault as the best way to achieve his goals -- that he was acting rationally, in a way, but based on a deeply flawed set of claims, beliefs, or assumptions.

https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-ukraine-r ... 28952.html


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I am having a hard time digesting that there is a 40, 50 or 60 km of stationary Russian convoy on the road 20 km from Kiev for the last few days and not attacked whatsoever by the defenders of Ukraine. First of all, this so-called long stationary convoy is only shown as one arial photo covering 1-2 km. Why? Where are the rest of 60 km of the convoy? Could this convoy be a decoy to bring Ukrainian air power in to the decoy so that they can be picked off one by one with ground to air Russian missiles? Assuming that the Russians are stupid and incompetent force is a fatal mistake. :wink:

Maybe it was a passing train! :)


Only if it was moving at the speed of light! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:59 pm

Assuming this is a legit comment by an eyewitness...

"The Ukrainian army is very brave and they will continue to defend the city but the style of the Russian army is like pirates. They do not fight with their army, they just destroy entire districts," Orlov says.


It sounds like the Russians have changed tactics... they're now fighting American style!

Cluster bombs?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:17 pm

Kikapu wrote:I am having a hard time digesting that there is a 40, 50 or 60 km of stationary Russian convoy on the road 20 km from Kiev for the last few days and not attacked whatsoever by the defenders of Ukraine. First of all, this so-called long stationary convoy is only shown as one arial photo covering 1-2 km. Why? Where are the rest of 60 km of the convoy? Could this convoy be a decoy to bring Ukrainian air power in to the decoy so that they can be picked off one by one with ground to air Russian missiles? Assuming that the Russians are stupid and incompetent force is a fatal mistake. :wink:


At the moment the hapless Russians don't even look competent enough to pick anything off.

There isn't much Ukrainian Air Power. A few old fighters and attack helicopters is pretty much it.

If Russia was up against an Israel, or even a Turkey, they would have been a a column of burning armour by now.

The Ukrainians are going to engage Russia in a protracted war if they enter any Ukrainian city. House to house, street to street, suburb to suburb and the Russians will not know from which the next Javelin missile will be brandished.

This would have been a great opportunity for America to wipe a couple of thousand Armoured vehicles and tanks off the face. Wouldn't have been so difficult.

Apparently pootin was too dum or at least miscalculated all this so badly, they are now in a massive quagmire and Zalensky seems to have become larger than life now. This former comedian has Pootin by the balls.

Bottom line is this. You can't defeat a people in their homeland for as long as they have the will to fight for their country. And so far Ukrainians have shown so much guts and determination. The will is there and that is partly thanks to Zalensky leading by example. Unlike the Afghan Leader who took his American Lift to safety, Salensky remains at large and also larger than life and at the forefront and shoulder to shoulder with his people. You can't ask for more than that from a leader.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Biden makes a dick of himself again…

“Putin may circle [Kiev] with tanks, but he will never gain the hearts and souls of the Iranian people.”


He was - and still is - the lesser evil

:? Oh I don't know about that... I experienced DEFCON 2 for the first time in my life, thanks to Biden!

By comparison, under Trump the most dangerous day was when the QAnon shaman showed up!


That's because of crazy Pootin and not sleepy Joe.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:Assuming this is a legit comment by an eyewitness...

"The Ukrainian army is very brave and they will continue to defend the city but the style of the Russian army is like pirates. They do not fight with their army, they just destroy entire districts," Orlov says.


It sounds like the Russians have changed tactics... they're now fighting American style!

Cluster bombs?


They don't have any precision weapons.

All those shiny planes, but they did not invest properly in precision munitions. Their Air Force is pretty useless without these weapons.

I thought you said this was a superpower. But the reality is, Turkey would wipe the floor with Russia.

Pootin should now surrender his Nuclear Arms on the basis he is too stupid to handle such a responsibility.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Assuming this is a legit comment by an eyewitness...

"The Ukrainian army is very brave and they will continue to defend the city but the style of the Russian army is like pirates. They do not fight with their army, they just destroy entire districts," Orlov says.


It sounds like the Russians have changed tactics... they're now fighting American style!

Cluster bombs?


They don't have any precision weapons.

All those shiny planes, but they did not invest properly in precision munitions. Their Air Force is pretty useless without these weapons.

I thought you said this was a superpower. But the reality is, Turkey would wipe the floor with Russia.

Snore... :lol:
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