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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:10 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:41 pm



...also factual and interesting.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:54 am

Get Real! wrote:I wonder if Paphitis values the opinion of former CIA covert intelligence officer, Andrew Bustamante...

https://seed126.bitchute.com/SaNUTh4l0C ... hL8kmO.mp4


No opinion at all.

First, I watched 5 seconds and saw a man giving his assessment. No time stamp at all. Therefore, impossible to have an assessment as the timing is important. This video could have been made when the Russians were on the outskirts of Kyiv. If you asked anyone at that time, we all would have said that Russia was winning. I would have said it to as at that time, Russian Forces were imminently going to enter Kyiv itself and from there who knows what would happen.

But what transpired after that was a remarkable Ukrainian victory and a disastrous withdrawal by Russia. The Spetsnaz that attempted to take the airport were abandoned by Russia and Killed by Ukrainian Special Forces.

Even during the siege of Mariupol, you could say that Russia is winning.

therefore, I am afraid you only got a soundbite with no context for me to form a view on his statment.

Secondly, I find it hard to reconcile that this guy was a spy. It's not everyday actual spies will talk in public. Unless you have a death wish. he may have worked for CIA or NSA, but being a field agent is a completely different matter altogether. Even Seals, Rangers, and US Special Forces are not even allowed to tell their families where they are or where they are going. Therefore, they have to lead a double life with family. Family know they are in service, but they don't know if they are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, or Agios Nikolaos in Cyprus.

So it doesn't add up.

Therefore, what I think Get Real is that you are clasping at straws, scouring the internet looking for soundbites that agree with your thesis and dreams. You are suffering from confirmation bias. You are also in denial. You have a deep hatred for America and the West as a whole. Evidenced no doubt by the fact you support illegal invasion and war crimes against an innocent country. How you can reconcile this and at the same time differentiate this position with the invasion of Cyprus and the nearly 50 years of Turkish occupation is beyond me and certainly beyond any logical thinking human being.

Even the Russians do not believe they are winning now and panic has set in. Yiou see this on the ground, through their actions. Russian State propganda is a different matter though, because the minute they start telling the truth, Pootin will lose his leadership either through Coup or assassination. They are now evacuating their commanders from Kherson Oblast. in other words they are leaving their conscripts to meet their eventual grizzly deaths.

This is not a scenario Russia can sustain indefinately. They will either implode economically or the entire country will descend into Anarchy and civil disorder. Hence why they will not mobilise. This war is unpopular in Russia. The vast majority of young Russian Men do not want to go to Ukraine as cannon fodder. the Russian soldiers who are there, are doing it for the salary, and are usually from the far east where unemployment and poverty is sky high and only people with no prospects are putting their hands up as this is their only means to earn a salary.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:28 am

repulsewarrior wrote:


There is only 1 way out for Russia but that could spell the end for Pootin which is why he is too scared to do it.

Russia needs to declare war and mobilise every Russian kid and send them to Ukraine.

But then Pootin risks assassination or Coup.

Russia is not in a good place.

In the meantime, Ukraine is able to grind down the Russian Forces indefinately as time is on their side, not Russia's :D

And yes, Russians are losing up to 500 soldiers per day. 200 soldiers per day minimum.

That's a lot of pissed off families.

It's literally amazing that here we are, 6 months into this disastrous piss operation, and the Ukrainians are giving a very good account of themselves and turning the tables in the way we are seeing today, with them knocking our supply lines, command and logistics bases, carrying out assassinations of Russia's Military leadership and strikes deep into Crimea and Crimean Air Bases. And it's funny watching the Russians move their limited forces around from the Donbass, on a whim such as when they re-inforced the Kherson oblast based on rumours of a counter offensive and see these forces pretty much stranded.

All this can only point to Ukrainian strategic success.

It's completely wonderful seeing the Riussians being outsmarted. Although it's not difficult as in my view, the Russian leadership has completely taken the Guiness Book of Stupid record.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:49 am

In the meantime just like I said a couple of days ago here-->

cyprus47975-6890.html#p926054

wrote: what is actually currently burning is Bahmut, Soledar, and the trio of Avdiivka, Pisky and Marinka together with 1300 dead and wounded Hohols per day. Expect final announcements in the next few days from the Russia


Enjoy the first announcement from the Russian MOD. The first of the trio, of heavily fortified areas prepared for 8 years under the command of Nato forces, PISKY HAS FALLEN. This is where the Ukrainians send reinforcements -say cannon fodder- every day!
Now Avdivka and Opytne are encircled by Russian forces holding Pisky, Spartak, Kruta Balka,Kamyanka and Stepove. After the fall of the trio there will be no place for the Ukrainians to hide. An avalanche will follow.

https://southfront.org/russian-forces-c ... -republic/

NB. I am using the Ukrainian spelling of topo names to follow the situation in Google Earth. For example Pesky in Russian is Pisky in Ukrainian.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:32 pm

Copy-Paste from RT

Ukraine and its Western backers should be held accountable for the ‘suicidal’ attack on Europe’s largest nuclear powerplant
The US secretary of state hoped to make Russia look like a ‘nuclear terrorist’. Instead, he implicated himself


Even as UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres addressed survivors of the World War Two US atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima, halfway around the world, the armed forces of Ukraine seemed hellbent on unleashing a modern-day nuclear holocaust on Europe by firing artillery rockets at the Zaporozhye power plant.

This week's assault, which damaged safety equipment and disrupted power to the facility, the continent's largest, was characterized by Guterres as "suicidal."

Kiev was quick to blame Russia for the attacks, accusing Moscow of conducting "nuclear terrorism," and calling for the international community to send in a delegation of "international peacekeepers" to "completely demilitarize the territory."

The Zaporozhye nuclear facility has been under the physical control of Russia since its forces occupied the site back in March. Since then, the plant has been operated by Ukrainian technicians working under the supervision of Russian atomic energy experts. The facility contains six nuclear reactors which, before the start of the military operation, generated approximately one-fifth of Ukraine’s electricity. Three of these reactors ceased operation after the Russians took control the site, and another one was forced to shut down after the facility was shelled on August 5. The two remaining reactors were likewise compelled to reduce their output to half as a safety precaution.

Russia summons UN Security Council over nuclear emergency

Ukraine’s ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yevhenii Tsymbaliuk, declared that Russian forces were attempting to cause electricity blackouts in southern Ukraine by shelling the plant. The Ukrainian state nuclear agency, Energoatom, has accused the Russian military of placing explosives throughout the Zaporozhye nuclear plant, which would be detonated in the event of a Ukrainian counterattack which threatened to capture the facility. The Ukrainian military has also accused Russia of placing military equipment, including ammunition, in buildings located near the nuclear reactors.

The only problem with the Ukrainian narrative is that, simply put, none of it is true. The August 5 attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear facility was carried out by artillery rockets whose impact characteristics point clearly to having originated from Ukrainian controlled territory. Moreover, Russian air defense and counter-battery radars situated in the vicinity of the plant would have detected the ballistic trajectory of the incoming rockets, providing unimpeachable evidence of the origin of the attack. So, too, would have US and NATO intelligence collection platforms operating over and around Ukraine. And, given the propaganda victory that could be achieved by releasing such evidence, one can rest assured that the US would very much take full advantage of any scenario which would reproduce the release of U-2 imagery during the Cuban missile crisis, or the release of the audio tapes of the Soviet fighter pilot downing KAL 007.

This, of course, won’t happen. And given the reality that Russia is engaged in the active defense of the Zaporozhye facility, it is unlikely that it would give away important intelligence about its radar capabilities just to score cheap public relation points. Russia has long been reticent about engaging in cheap propaganda, preferring to let its performance on the battlefield do its speaking for it.

Not so the United States and Ukraine, which have a track record of collaboration when it comes to disseminating information designed to undermine the Russian narrative and "get into the mind" of Russian President Vladimir Putin – even if the information being released to the public is not true.

US addresses attacks on Russian-held nuclear power plant

The Ukrainian attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear facility was, in typical Orwellian fashion, forecasted by the United States four days before it took place. During an August 1 news conference at the United Nations, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken accused Russia of using the nuclear facility as a base from which it conducted artillery strikes against Ukraine. Blinken declared that the act of firing artillery rockets from proximity to the nuclear power plant was "the height of irresponsibility," implying that these rockets could land on the power plant itself. Blinken also added that the Russians were using the nuclear facility as a "nuclear shield" which prevented any Ukrainian attack out of fear of striking the nuclear reactors.

Blinken’s brazen parroting of Ukrainian government talking points was made more absurd by the absolute dearth of evidence to back up his powerful pronouncements. Normally, when someone of the stature of the Secretary of State speaks in such a public manner about issues of this importance, there is some intelligence information that is released – for instance, overhead imagery showing Russian troop locations near the Zaporozhye nuclear plant – to sustain the allegation. No such data was provided, however, because Blinken had ceased functioning as the head of the American diplomatic service, and instead was functioning as little more than a Ukrainian propagandist.

For its part, Russia has made it clear that there were no Russian forces located in the vicinity of the Zaporozhye nuclear facility save for a small contingent of troops for security purposes (it is, after all, an active nuclear power plant.) Again, while Russia can clearly provide overhead imagery of its force disposition in the vicinity of the plant, operational security precludes it from doing so. It is, after all, the job of the accuser to provide the evidence of a crime, not the accused.
Russia accuses Ukraine of ‘nuclear terrorism’


Blinken’s August 1 statement served as the initiation of a public relations campaign which culminated in the Ukrainian artillery attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear facility. The goal of this campaign appears to be twofold – first, to put Russia in a bad light, and second, to allow Ukraine to accomplish that which it could not achieve through military force – the eviction of Russian troops from Zaporozhye. The calls for international intervention emanating from the West point to a concerted effort in promoting a pro-Ukrainian narrative even when all parties know the underlying facts sustaining this narrative are not true. To counteract that, Russia has extended its own invitation to IAEA monitors to visit the powerplant and summoned a UN Security Council meeting to discuss the situation.

This is far more serious than simply another information warfare campaign gone bad. While the Zaporozhye nuclear facility is constructed to standards which would be able to survive a direct hit from an artillery rocket, the disruption of power and/or damage to safety equipment could lead to the kind of runaway event that preceded the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. The Russian Defense Ministry noted that the Ukrainian attack on the power plant had caused a power surge which triggered an emergency shutdown. The head of the Ukrainian company operating the plant further noted that all but one power line connecting it to Ukraine’s energy system had been destroyed, declaring that any power blackout could be "very unsafe for such a nuclear facility."

Secretary-General Guterres rightly called the attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear facility "suicidal." However, the "nuclear terrorists" involved in this atrocity do not hail from Moscow, but rather Washington and Kiev. When the dust from Russia’s military operation finally settles, and those responsible for perpetrating crimes such as the attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear facility can be held accountable, Tony Blinken’s name should, if there were any justice in this world, be at the top of this list.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:20 pm

[url][/url]This is what this war is about.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62539480

You just know there is an an american corporation making a killing.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:There is only 1 way out for Russia but that could spell the end for Pootin which is why he is too scared to do it.

Russia needs to declare war and mobilise every Russian kid and send them to Ukraine.

But then Pootin risks assassination or Coup.

Russia is not in a good place.

:shock: OMG! Russia should just surrender and cede Moscow or something... :?

Surely there must be a way out for poor old Putin! :(
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:02 pm

...only one way out; ending the Problem: solving what is for all of us an identity crisis, that of the Individual and that of the Person.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:28 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...only one way out; ending the Problem: solving what is for all of us an identity crisis, that of the Individual and that of the Person.

I don’t know what compels you to post such utter nonsensical trash!
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