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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:41 pm

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Get Real! wrote:The Americans are saving themselves from embarrassment as they realize the Russians will jam it and it’ll just fall to the ground! :lol:


Do you have anything to support that statement?

Global Hawk is unjammable. In a hostile electronic environment it just shuts out interference and adopts an autonomous, pre-programmed mission profile. Although, it's guidance comes from very tight, satellite transmitted encrypted signals. Which doesn't of course make it invulnerable to being shot down. Given it's tiny radar profile though - good luck with that.

As is often the case - you're taking totally ignorant shite. Like it's some comic book stuff. :wink:

I’ve already posted tons of material supporting the jamming and failures of all things relying on GPS navigation.

You cannot overcome Russian jamming capabilities for they are the best in the world...

https://www.newsweek.com/theyre-jamming ... ar-1712784
https://www.timesofisrael.com/theyre-ja ... n-ukraine/
https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview ... c-warfare/
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy ... 018-8?op=1
https://www.c4isrnet.com/unmanned/uas/2 ... cials-say/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... troy-them/


Russian forces are being destroyed on a daily bases and in 115 days have lost more equipment and soldiers than all of Merika's wars since WW2.

Oh well... 8)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:42 pm

Paphitis, the West is more than paying for Russia’s war as Russia now charges the West 3x for energy exports. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:45 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Meanwhile, back in the real world, as territory switches hands from Russian to Ukrainian and vice versa, everything is pretty much a standstill, with the lines moving 500 m here and then back to there.

And in the Pentagon, and NATO, Western Powers are watching in disbelief as Russia has destroyed its economy and taken it's military power back 20 years, and also exposed Russia as nothing but a middle power with nukes. Militarily on par with Ukraine and perhaps lesser than Turkey. Who would have thought? 8)

In the real world the Bushmaster’s tires have gone flat and the overwhelming Australian force of volunteers totaling 4 have either died or run off!

:lol: :lol: :lol:


BTW, that's news to us.

2 were interviewed on 60 minutes from the front lines. They are Aussies in a combined Canadia and US unit. The Aussie soldiers there are ex Australian Army SAS. Or at least that is what they said.

And only yesterday, there was footage of some Australian and Canadian soldiers taking over a building in Sveradonesk.

Australian SAS don't run away. They fight to the end. This is what they are trained for.

And, if I was a Russian Conscript, these SAS are not the kind of soldiers you want to run in to, because it's a death sentence.

And one more thing, if they capture Russia Soldiers, then that too is a death sentence and they won't be tieing their hands behind their backs neither.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:48 pm

Global Hawk doesn't use GPS for primary guidance.

You have a schoolboy-like faith in Russian technical capabilities, which isn't born out by any reasonable and unbiased analysis.

In essence - your daily avalanche of supporting links usually aren't worth a tinker's cuss. (I actually look at the ones which might just be interesting :wink: )
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:53 pm

Londonrake wrote:Global Hawk doesn't use GPS for primary guidance.

You have a schoolboy-like faith in Russian technical capabilities, which isn't born out by any reasonable and unbiased analysis.

In essence - your daily avalanche of supporting links usually aren't worth a tinker's cuss. (I actually look at the ones which might just be interesting :wink: )


get Real has drunk the cool aid.

When right under his nose the Russians are using unsecured comms. And yet we are suppose to believe that Russia is able to compromise Global Hawk, when Turkey's Bayraktar is fucking Russian positions up like no tomorrow.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:55 pm

Paphitis wrote:2 were interviewed on 60 minutes from the front lines. They are Aussies in a combined Canadia and US unit. The Aussie soldiers there are ex Australian Army SAS. Or at least that is what they said.

And only yesterday, there was footage of some Australian and Canadian soldiers taking over a building in Sveradonesk.

Australian SAS don't run away. They fight to the end. This is what they are trained for.

And, if I was a Russian Conscript, these SAS are not the kind of soldiers you want to run in to, because it's a death sentence.

And one more thing, if they capture Russia Soldiers, then that too is a death sentence and they won't be tieing their hands behind their backs neither.

None of these volunteers ever get the chance to even see a Russian face... they just get pulverized from 50km away from something like a TOS-1! :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:59 pm

It does use the GPS. From the Wiki…

The LRE provides precision Differential GPS corrections for navigational accuracy during takeoff and landings, while precision coded GPS supplemented with an inertial navigation system is used during mission execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_ ... lobal_Hawk
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:It does use the GPS. From the Wiki…

The LRE provides precision Differential GPS corrections for navigational accuracy during takeoff and landings, while precision coded GPS supplemented with an inertial navigation system is used during mission execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_ ... lobal_Hawk


You silly boy.

Yes for navigation. Not for weapons guidance.

And no, Russia can not hack into and jam the entire US GPS Constellation of Satellites.

If it did that, Aviation would be in turmoil globally, and GPS to this day has an accuracy of 30 feet in civilian usage, and probably to within 1 foot with a military application.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:07 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It does use the GPS. From the Wiki…

The LRE provides precision Differential GPS corrections for navigational accuracy during takeoff and landings, while precision coded GPS supplemented with an inertial navigation system is used during mission execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_ ... lobal_Hawk

You silly boy.

Yes for navigation. Not for weapons guidance.

And no, Russia can not hack into and jam the entire US GPS Constellation of Satellites.

If it did that, Aviation would be in turmoil globally, and GPS to this day has an accuracy of 30 feet in civilian usage, and probably to within 1 foot with a military application.

:roll: Exactly… if it needs GPS to navigate then it cannot get close to Russian jamming devices and it’ll just crash to the ground.

Russian jamming instruments are so powerful they can completely cut off Europe from Internet access and pretty much everything relying on GPS.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:It does use the GPS. From the Wiki…

The LRE provides precision Differential GPS corrections for navigational accuracy during takeoff and landings, while precision coded GPS supplemented with an inertial navigation system is used during mission execution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_ ... lobal_Hawk

You silly boy.

Yes for navigation. Not for weapons guidance.

And no, Russia can not hack into and jam the entire US GPS Constellation of Satellites.

If it did that, Aviation would be in turmoil globally, and GPS to this day has an accuracy of 30 feet in civilian usage, and probably to within 1 foot with a military application.

:roll: Exactly… if it needs GPS to navigate then it cannot get close to Russian jamming devices and it’ll just crash to the ground.

Russian jamming instruments are so powerful they can completely cut off Europe from Internet access and pretty much everything relying on GPS.


No they can't.

AND, they also have Intertial Navigation back up, and that is a mechanical instrument first developed in the 1950s, and is accurate to within 1 meter. And it's also used to navigate US Tomahaawk Missiles to their target in conjusnction with GPS.

And Russia can't do stuff all.

You've literally lost the plot. As far as I can tell, our GPS is working 100% with level 5 RAIM.
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