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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:08 pm

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Get Real! wrote:The Russian maps keep getting updated and now we’re on the outskirts of Lisichansk and Slavyansk.

Severodonetsk is considered captured (a repeat of Mariupol)… just waiting for the 2,500 Ukies trapped in there to surrender.



Link? :?

Ukraine tends to over inflate their successes and under report their failures to boost moral. Russia probably does the same.


This is huge... in my browser I can zoom in/out of the map but I don't know how it'll come out on yours...

https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/u ... sk_map.jpg
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:10 pm

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Lordo wrote:Lets face it you do not understand us and you never will. I don't always see eye to eye with GR. On this subject we agree. Your problem is that you think I should disagree. Lets face it, facts speak for themselves. By all means counter the facts but this bitching about the posters does not wash
Your problem is lack of knowledge of what the Yanks have been doing to the world particularly since WW2. Educate yourself or you shall remain as you sound, out of your depth.
Back in 1964 Mj Packard was going around the villages in Cyprus trying to stop the fighting between the two communities. He was give an Greek and Turkish Major so they can enter any village they chose as the locals were of lower rank. One day Yank General Ball pulls Packard into his office and just before he removes him from his duties tells him that he has got it all wrong. “We are not trying make peace” he said, ”we are trying to divide the island”.
But ignorance of the facts of what the Yanks have been doing must be bliss. You can believe that bear can live with a boy just like in the Jungle book. I think that is your level of understanding of politics.

And then again "but that was over 50 years ago" I hear you say. And you are right, but what you fail to realise is there people in Cyprus who are suffering the consequences to this day.


Sorry. I find your crocodile tears over a handful of illegal immigrants on Wednesday, followed by your acceptance, and even justification, of Russia's killing thousands of Ukrainians, whilst consigning millions of them to fleeing refugee status on Thursday a tad hypocritical.

Not to mention, your clearly fanatically obsessive urge to turn every - single - fucking - thread - repeatedly - into an anti-west tirade, mind numbingly boring.

Please, do stop responding to anything I post. I'm sure we would both be the better off if you simply went back to La La land and talked to yourself. No? :roll:

There is no point posting for you either.


Thank you. A result then. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Russian maps keep getting updated and now we’re on the outskirts of Lisichansk and Slavyansk.

Severodonetsk is considered captured (a repeat of Mariupol)… just waiting for the 2,500 Ukies trapped in there to surrender.



Link? :?

Ukraine tends to over inflate their successes and under report their failures to boost moral. Russia probably does the same.


This is huge... in my browser I can zoom in/out of the map but I don't know how it'll come out on yours...

https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/u ... sk_map.jpg


I have no idea whether that is genuine or not.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:21 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Russian maps keep getting updated and now we’re on the outskirts of Lisichansk and Slavyansk.

Severodonetsk is considered captured (a repeat of Mariupol)… just waiting for the 2,500 Ukies trapped in there to surrender.



Link? :?

Ukraine tends to over inflate their successes and under report their failures to boost moral. Russia probably does the same.


This is huge... in my browser I can zoom in/out of the map but I don't know how it'll come out on yours...

https://s2.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/u ... sk_map.jpg


I have no idea whether that is genuine or not.

I have faith in what the Russians are reporting with their movements because they also post accompanying videos and images of action that took place wherever they go.

You can see for instance, video when they replace Ukie flags at Town Halls as they capture villages and towns etc.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:00 am

...ella re GR, you can't be telling me that for Putin everything is going as planned; why then is "it" taking so long, why then as a result the towns he captures are turned to rubble as a result of these "wins".

It is not clear what he is doing in the Ukraine; yet, it is not for Ukrainians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:26 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...ella re GR, you can't be telling me that for Putin everything is going as planned; why then is "it" taking so long,

Are you implying you have this supernatural ability to estimate the “acceptable” time for any given military operation (even though you don’t even know their goals) and according to your calculations they are behind schedule?

If that’s the case what was the “acceptable” time for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan and did they meet your expectations? :lol:

repulsewarrior wrote:why then as a result the towns he captures are turned to rubble as a result of these "wins".

What’s exactly is your problem with rubble again? And did you have similar rubble issues when the US invaded Iraq and/or Afghanistan?

repulsewarrior wrote:It is not clear what he is doing in the Ukraine; yet, it is not for Ukrainians.

If the Ukrainian government couldn’t care less about their own people you expect the invader to do so?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:29 am

GR could easily just repeat the same post over and over again by stating that “Russia is winning the war in Ukraine” and just post the current map where Russia is holding land in Ukraine and where Ukraine is losing land without any other links and he would be correct each time so that some of the boys on here do not argue about it pointlessly.

The western press write shit most of the time just to boost the moral of the Ukrainians and this is what some on here would like to read and ignore the facts on the map. Not everyone on here is into fairytale stories, and certainly not GR.

Max is not making an argument that what GR posts are not correct. Max’s argument is that GR is posting too many accurate post that favors Russia. :roll:

Some on here would GR to play the part of being “deaf & dumb” instead of posting facts which reflects the reality on the ground and the maps of the war. :roll:

Maybe some of you boys should ask GR to stay in bed and post no more until the war is over! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:03 am

...obviously if you compare movements on maps daily, there are always ebbs and flows.

Russia is advancing that's clear, only slowly and at a heavy cost; it is a matter of timing, what and when Ukrainian troops will receive as weapons.

...despite the so called advances, Putin gains nothing in only crushing (potential) competition for resources which he is exploiting elsewhere, and in my opinion it is a shortsighted view.

Putin, like Erdogan, and Zelenskyy know very well what the People want, i have no doubt; it is a matter of intentions.

At this point or at some point in the future enough will be enough, but "it" will not be over until it is, as the Problem, solved.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:42 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...obviously if you compare movements on maps daily, there are always ebbs and flows.

Russia is advancing that's clear, only slowly and at a heavy cost; it is a matter of timing, what and when Ukrainian troops will receive as weapons.

...despite the so called advances, Putin gains nothing in only crushing (potential) competition for resources which he is exploiting elsewhere, and in my opinion it is a shortsighted view.

Putin, like Erdogan, and Zelenskyy know very well what the People want, i have no doubt; it is a matter of intentions.

At this point or at some point in the future enough will be enough, but "it" will not be over until it is, as the Problem, solved.

For crying out loud wake up to reality…

Russia has already defeated the Ukraine like 10 times over!

When was the last time you heard of an opponent having all their hardware replenished over and over as if by magic?

When was the last time you heard of an opponent using up all their soviet hardware and then getting all NATO equipment over and over, and losing that too?

When was the last time you heard of a defender outnumbering the invader by 5-6 times and yet losing every battle?

It’s like playing a computer game which keeps cheating and yet still losing every round!

Without the West interfering this would’ve been over in like two weeks and you have the audacity to ask things like why it’s taking so long?

Start using your head!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:01 am

...gosh GR, you make it sound like the Russians are loosing; like they would lose fighting NATO directly, aren't they lucky therefore because it could be much worse.
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