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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:20 pm

Lordo wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:I met somebody who lived there about that time.


Did you meet him down the pub? :wink:

Why are you insulting me. Do I sound like a pub goer?


Normally I try to refrain from insulting people. What I do is to describe them................ accurately. That has a habit of being misinterpreted.

But - yet another vague statement to support a point you are trying - but failing - to make.

Then again. In the context of the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, who really cares about whether Russians paid for hot water or not, back in the 80s?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:32 pm

Career military personal are trained killers without conscience weather they are on the ground, in the air or on the sea.

Most go about their lives after finishing their service, but some end their service as broken people filled with guilt and try to make up for their sins. We may have one or two of those “broken“ people on here wanting to be Saints!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:48 pm

Kikapu wrote:Career military personal are trained killers without conscience weather they are on the ground, in the air or on the sea.

Most go about their lives after finishing their service, but some end their service as broken people filled with guilt and try to make up for their sins. We may have one or two of those “broken“ people on here wanting to be Saints!


What a load of - ignorant - bollocks.

I don't feel I have to defend myself against people like you. You know nothing about me, or my life. You're Just spouting prejudiced BS. In fact - just for a change - making it up as you go along. From the man who complains about "offence".

Look - either ignore/block me - or get in the fight. Make your mind up. I really don't care, either way.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:57 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:I met somebody who lived there about that time.


Did you meet him down the pub? :wink:

Why are you insulting me. Do I sound like a pub goer?


Normally I try to refrain from insulting people. What I do is to describe them................ accurately. That has a habit of being misinterpreted.

But - yet another vague statement to support a point you are trying - but failing - to make.

Then again. In the context of the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, who really cares about whether Russians paid for hot water or not, back in the 80s?

I do not understand why you say it is vague. I met a person who lived in Moscow for several years and passed on the information I heard. It really is not that hard to find out what I was told about that time is true or not.

By the way, it was not just water, it was hot water. There is a difference.

As to what difference it makes, Have a look to see the news reports of the time and see the news reports no. You get the same shit. You are still blaming only Russia when clearly not on the Ukranian government but also the American government is responsible for this situation in equal measure. Not forgetting that fuckin coup that took place in Ukraine in 2014 and replaced an elected government with a dcik tator who was American stooge.

There is so much more to this situation.

But it really is ok if your brain capacity can only take so much and you can just gloss ofer reality and believe what ever you wish. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion as baseless as it may be.


But you know what they say about opinons though don't you?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:00 pm

Putin yesterday:

“Peter the Great waged the Northern War for 21 years. You might think he was fighting with Sweden, seizing their lands. He wasn’t capturing them. He was reclaiming them,”

"When Peter the Great laid the foundation of a new capital in St Petersburg, none of the European countries recognised this territory as Russian. Everyone recognised it as Swedish,”

“But along with Finno-Ugric peoples, Slavs lived there from ancient times. Why did he invade it? To reclaim our lands and strengthen the state. That’s what he did. It seems that it’s our turn now to return the land and strengthen the state.”


What's happening in Ukraine has absolutely nothing at all to do with NATO, or "de-Nazification" and everything to do with Vladimir Putin's view of his historical destiny.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:05 pm

Londonrake wrote:Putin yesterday:

“Peter the Great waged the Northern War for 21 years. You might think he was fighting with Sweden, seizing their lands. He wasn’t capturing them. He was reclaiming them,”

"When Peter the Great laid the foundation of a new capital in St Petersburg, none of the European countries recognised this territory as Russian. Everyone recognised it as Swedish,”

“But along with Finno-Ugric peoples, Slavs lived there from ancient times. Why did he invade it? To reclaim our lands and strengthen the state. That’s what he did. It seems that it’s our turn now to return the land and strengthen the state.”


What's happening in Ukraine has absolutely nothing at all to do with NATO, or "de-Nazification" and everything to do with Vladimir Putin's view of his historical destiny.

Nope bullshit.

Have you got the actual speech in russian Putin said? I would not believe a word of what the wetern media said. Lets find it and see what it is he actually said.

I guess this is where you got it from.

www.thesun.co.uk › news › 18804673Putin issues CHILLING threat to Sweden as he aims 'to take ...


The same newspaper who claimed Liver fans were to blame for the Hillsborough. Of course, THE SUN. Where reading is not required, just pictures will do.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:13 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Career military personal are trained killers without conscience weather they are on the ground, in the air or on the sea.

Most go about their lives after finishing their service, but some end their service as broken people filled with guilt and try to make up for their sins. We may have one or two of those “broken“ people on here wanting to be Saints!

What a load of - ignorant - bollocks.

I don't feel I have to defend myself against people like you. You know nothing about me, or my life. You're Just spouting prejudiced BS. In fact - just for a change - making it up as you go along. From the man who complains about "offence".

Look - either ignore/block me - or get in the fight. Make your mind up. I really don't care, either way.

I sense guilt oozing out of every orifice Londoner… time to let it all out! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:17 pm

Lordo wrote:I do not understand why you say it is vague. I met a person who lived in Moscow for several years and passed on the information I heard. It really is not that hard to find out what I was told about that time is true or not.

By the way, it was not just water, it was hot water. There is a difference.

As to what difference it makes, Have a look to see the news reports of the time and see the news reports no. You get the same shit. You are still blaming only Russia when clearly not on the Ukranian government but also the American government is responsible for this situation in equal measure. Not forgetting that fuckin coup that took place in Ukraine in 2014 and replaced an elected government with a dcik tator who was American stooge.

There is so much more to this situation.

But it really is ok if your brain capacity can only take so much and you can just gloss ofer reality and believe what ever you wish. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion as baseless as it may be.


But you know what they say about opinons though don't you?


It's vague because it is something you heard from somebody, somewhere or other and - like a lot of your posts - is unsubstantiated. Which doesn't detract from my point. What has whether Russians got free hot water in Gorbachev's time got to do with this thread? :?

FWIW, I know somebody who was a Project Manager on a major petrochemical effort in Russia and lived there for 3 years travelling widely as part of his job. He's told me that once you get outside the metropolitan suburban areas you are basically into a feudal environmemt. Even in the cities (his permanent abode was in Moscow for the duration) nothing works. Getting a plumber in who knows what he's doing to fix a problem is a major achievement.

However you try to spin it, what's happening in Ukraine is Vladimir Putin's responsibility alone. Those tens of thousands of Ukrainian deaths are down to him. To criticise Trump as a fascist and support Putin demonstrates what a total hypocrite you are.

You are fanatically obsessed with an anti-US/West narrative. Oh wait - no your not!

Given you last complaint about my insulting you - how does "But it really is ok if your brain capacity can only take so much" measure up? Could it be another manifestation of your hypocrisy?

If you're up for it................ I can make you look a cunt all day. Is that what we both want though? :(
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:26 pm

Lordo wrote:[Have you got the actual speech in russian Putin said? I would not believe a word of what the wetern media said. Lets find it and see what it is he actually said.


Please try to make an effort to spell correctly.

It seems you've spent a lot of time in the UK - and apparently have done quite nicely out of it. Although, that doesn't of course stop you from slagging it off on a daily basis. Nevertheless, you should by now have acquired a degree of literacy. Tell me again about my lack of brain capacity? :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2sfJjl7_Zk
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