Londonrake wrote:Kikapu wrote:Londonrake wrote:
Either way, I really don't see Erdogan preventing the ascension to NATO of Sweden and Finland.
Jeez! What a total fuck up for the "Master strategist" Putin.
If Putin never had intentions of invading Sweden or Finland, then they becoming NATO members should not have any concerns for him as long as they do not place any American nuclear missiles on their territory, but they might have Russians missiles aimed at them from now on al the same. Ukraine is different because Putin wants to shut Ukraine from the Black Sea before they also become NATO member eventually.
See what I mean by "Russian apologist"? No?
A year ago you might have righteously claimed Russia had no intention of invading Ukraine. In fact, the Messiah himself said in February "Russia has no intention of invading Ukraine. It's all western propaganda".Basically, it seems nobody can trust anything the man says. Best to be safe. Ehh?
Russia has had nuclear capable Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad for 4 years. Able to reach most European capitals in a few minutes.
Look at a map. Visualise the Baltic as a NATO lake and the Kola pennisular with Finland and Sweden as members. Look at how Turkey controls access to/from the Black Sea. Look at how NATO controls all aspects of the Med.
Then, look at the (remote as it happens) pretty innocuous implications of Ukraine joining NATO.
Major Putin fuck up. No? Seriously?
It is becoming pointless in having any discussion with you on the Ukraine war.
Enjoy talking with yourself!
We can exchange views on the jokes thread instead. That seems to be the appropriate topic for you to engage with others without being offensive!