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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 06, 2022 9:10 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:Hang on a moment my friend. Is Cuba allowed to let in Russian Nuclear missiles?

Like fuck she is.


Yes, you keep playing that card.

What actually happened though - and how does it compare to the current Ukraine situation?


After Castro took over in 1959 Cuba established a relationship with the Soviet Union that was to last for 30 years.

In 1962 the Russians began a covert program of establishing medium range nuclear missile sites in the country. Missiles which would, once launched, be within a few minutes of striking major US cities. Making any US warning of a missile attack redundant.

When this activity was discovered the Russians lied (Russian, Lying??? "We have no plans to invade Ukraine" VP. Feb 2022)

The US imposed a maritime blockade and eventually an agreement was reached where Russia would give up their plans and the US would remove missiles from Turkey. Plus, an agreement they wouldn't invade the country,

How does that situation in any way compare to what has been going on in Ukraine?

I was under the impression we were discussing sovereignty and any country being able to do as they wish on their soil?

Is it not?

In the meantime The Cubans did not start bombing Americans in Cuba.

Let me think now which country was invaded when the Americans felt that their people were in danger because a socialist government was elected? And of course invaded and the government removed.

Does it wring a bell? Grenada? Reagan? 1983. And I may add not one American was harmed in anyway/ Unlike Ukraine when Ukrainian army assaulted the Russian speakers in the east back in 2014 and just recently.

What about Chile, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and even Lebanon. Do you remember that when the Americans fired into Lebanon from their ships and set up army Bases there?

In Iraq a million people were killed. Are you kidding me?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 06, 2022 9:55 pm

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/05/05/r ... r-tsunami/

...nuclear musings a popular notion on "Russian" TV
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 06, 2022 10:04 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/05/05/russian-tv-shows-nuclear-tsunami/

...nuclear musings a popular notion on "Russian" TV


It ain't gona happen. It plays well with the local population. A little bit like RoC declaring they bought 2 of this and 3 of the other. Just so the population feels they are protected, that's all.

The old saying goes

"if they are against TCs they are too many, if they are against Turkey they are too few".

Know thy enemy and act accordingly. You do not have to capitulate but don't act as tough and aggravate them thinking somebody else is going to help you when the going gets tough. When the going gets tough they will get going. Especially the Brits and the Yanks. I mean 80 000 soldier Britain has. What the fuck just happened.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri May 06, 2022 10:46 pm

This one reveals quite a bit of what America gets up to. Fuckin hell can you believe it I just posted another anti-American post again. Gavole.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 06, 2022 11:59 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3v8px/russia-kidnapped-ukrainian-beauty-blogger-propaganda?utm_source=email&utm_medium=editorial&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=220505

...on pregnant women, and propaganda about them.


Not THAT woman.
That one died after she delivered a dead baby.
The woman on the right of this photo
https://media.guim.co.uk/422fb9d7c2a27d ... 0/1000.jpg
told the whole truth of what happened.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 07, 2022 1:25 am

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:No excuse?? You mean like "excuse me, may I invade you? :lol: :lol: :lol: "

The Russians didn't need childish excuses. All they needed was their RIGHT to invade Ukraine to protect themselves from further Nato expansion. You probably don't know what it means to have Nato at your doorstep....

They waited patiently for Stoltenburg to mock them for over a year regarding Ukraine's "right" to join Nato while the Ukrainians were violating all agreements they signed so far.
They waited watching their people getting slaughtered in Donbas for 8 years by Azov Nazi criminals. They waited watching all their reasonable proposals getting rejected one after another.
Concentrated forces at the borders for more than a month, making their intentions very clear while the Anglo Saxons were actually provoking them to dare invade.

All the Russians needed was no childish excuses, they only needed the RIGHT to Invade. And the Anglo Saxons made sure they got that right.

Capich?


Many innocent thousands of Ukrainians have been killed. Millions have lost their homes, or been forced to flee their country. Towns and cities have been virtually obliterated. To defend that makes you a total cunt as far as I'm concerned and - frankly - I don't understand how you can sleep at night with the view that all the carnage in Ukraine has been in any way justifiable.

How many were "slaughtered" in Donbas? How many people who have totally lost their City - Mariupol were "tortured". All that as some sort of, ridiculous, comparison to what the Russian army has done in Ukraine.

NATO - was - like GR's ridiculous secret bio-warfare sites - just an excuse, justification for the war. If you take the trouble to read Putin's views on Ukraine you would understand.

So - how's it going? In the 3rd month of what was supposed to be a short blitzkrieg invasion of Ukraine? How is that great chessmaster Putin's cunning plan getting on? Unfolding exactly as he planned?

How do you feel about GR's oft expressed desire for things to evolve into a nuclear war. No comment it seems. Difficult to understand that mindset. :? Is he almighty?


How much nonsense do I have to reply to?
I will stick to your habit of playing the behaviorist of the forum. GR said this, GR said that...
Accompanied by your trick of calling everyone -often by name- to provide you answers or else you 'd think they are scared followers of GR's deity!

What's pathetic here is not only your playing us the behaviorist, but also the fact that you are NOT following the forum. Hence bursting our balls over and over again, to provide you already existing answers.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 07, 2022 3:02 am

"Americans", Lordo, it's hard not to hate anyone who considers "their" kind above all others, leaving Humanity second place to "it".

...good find. It does not make "Russians" any better though, or less a threat, like "Greeks", "Brits" and "Turks" for example, they are all unwilling to change themselves, preferring to remain in Ignorance, rather than overcoming their fears.

Russians are being fed the possibility of nuclear attack; it's not a threat that NATO has made. "Fed" as in a comfort like stuffing a goose; who is doing that? The "Russians", Putin's "Russia" does (is doing) this: just like ''Them''.

...so i ask, is this a Russian war? ...a war against Russia, Russians?

By whom? (And to what end?)

...Putin, bigger than NATO, seems the biggest threat to Russians, (and to the rest of us not ''Russian'').
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 07, 2022 3:45 am

...we were asking what Religions are doing,

https://www.ertnews.gr/eidiseis/diethni ... -proedroy/

Referring to the much-discussed scenario of his trip to Kyiv, Pope Francis clarified that "on the first day of the war I called Ukrainian President Zelensky" while he did not call Putin, since "I wanted to make a clear gesture so that everyone can see it. That's what I went to the Russian Ambassador for. " After twenty days of war, the pope asked Cardinal Parolin "to send a message to Putin that I am willing to go to Moscow," to which the Russian president has not yet responded. "We are still insisting, although I am afraid that Putin can not and does not want to have (this) meeting at the moment." He added: "But how can you not stop so much barbarism? "Twenty-five years ago we experienced the same thing as Rwanda."


Remaining in the war in Ukraine and the question of whether it is right for Ukrainians to procure weapons from the West, the Pope appears doubtful ("I can not answer") but adds that what is clear is that weapons are being tested in this country. The Russians now know that tanks are of little use and they are thinking of other things. "Wars are made for this: to test the weapons we have produced." In fact, at this point, and citing the fact that "the arms trade is a scandal, few oppose


It is noteworthy that the Pope speaks of "insufficient will for peace" and of the fact that, during his recent meeting with Victor Orban at the Vatican, the Hungarian President "told me that the Russians have a plan, that "Everything will end on May 9." although the Pope stressed that "I am pessimistic, but we must make every possible gesture to stop the war."
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 07, 2022 3:48 am

''Over 16,500 Ukrainian refugees now in Cyprus''
https://cyprus-mail.com/2022/05/06/over ... in-cyprus/

...that's a lot of people.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat May 07, 2022 11:31 am

I know this post might be considered by some as being irrelevant to this thread, but on the contrary, it is very relevant, especially for those always asking for responses on comments and opinions made by others, be it based on truth or fake news and information. Not every comment and opinion needs to be responded by anyone or everyone, but no one will stop you from doing so if you so wish. There’s no right or wrong way, or even, no fake or truth way! :wink:

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