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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu May 05, 2022 11:16 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 06, 2022 5:30 am

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri May 06, 2022 4:29 pm

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Lordo wrote:Very interesting speech, Putin could not be clearer.


Looks old. In the light of recent events I don't think I've ever listened to so much hypocrisy, packed into such a short space of time.

Angela's loving looks I think sum up what will become her enduring legacy.

Somehow I suspect you did not listen to all of it. Especially who broke the agreements they had. Shame.


Yes. I did, and I suspect after all that's been offered by so many, that's rare. That speech is 15 years old of course and much has changed. His recent invasion of Ukraine has changed it most significantly. I suggest you listen to it again and look at it from an objective point of view. In view of the man's invasion of Ukraine it's hypocritical - in extremis.

What happened to your "I am against all aggressors" - that basically seems to have been about it - and the posts decrying fascism? The Azov stuff (Ukrainian far right groups got about 2% in national elections), glosses over the fact that Putin is surely the most powerful fascist on the planet right now? That aside, most of your contributions seem to have consisted of a catalogue of anti-west stuff. Mostly offered in the usual left-wing, wrist-slashingly negative tone.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri May 06, 2022 4:42 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote: drama theater in Mariupol was blown up from the inside

No matter how Ukrainian propagandists try to convince people of the alleged air strike of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the drama theater, local residents prove the inconsistency of this version.

Young people who tried to get cell signal in that area right after the tragic events noticed that the glazed restaurant next to the drama theater had no damage. This confirms that there was no air strike, and the building destroyed was conducted by the Azov battalion, whose provocation was known 3 days before.

“You see, if the explosion had been outside, everything would have shattered. So, it was blown up from the inside!” — a local resident told Readovka.

Eyewitnesses have repeatedly confirmed that the explosion of the drama theater in Mariupol was a prepared provocation of the "Azov" people who mined the building in advance.


I should say I'm surprised by your continual acceptance of such patently obvious Russian propaganda. That, and your enthusiastically regurgitating it - verbatim. I guess I've gotten used to it though.

The Russian army has been indiscriminately pounding various Ukrainian Cities and towns for almost 10 weeks now. It would be difficult for even the most gullible useful idiot to post that hasn't resulted in the death of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. In it's anonymity that seems quite acceptable. When though it results in an incident involving the deaths of a large number of people, which becomes front page global news, we then get this output from Russian propaganda that it was all a conspiracy (key word there) by the fascist Ukrainians to murder hundreds of their own.

Sorry to descend into the personal arena but........................... are you really that stupid? Or, are you just blindly and obediently towing the line? Baaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 06, 2022 4:46 pm

I would call it consistency.
2% over a population of 40 million is 800,000 in case you didn't know.
Enough for everybody in Donbas to talk about the Azov criminals.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 06, 2022 4:54 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote: drama theater in Mariupol was blown up from the inside

No matter how Ukrainian propagandists try to convince people of the alleged air strike of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the drama theater, local residents prove the inconsistency of this version.

Young people who tried to get cell signal in that area right after the tragic events noticed that the glazed restaurant next to the drama theater had no damage. This confirms that there was no air strike, and the building destroyed was conducted by the Azov battalion, whose provocation was known 3 days before.

“You see, if the explosion had been outside, everything would have shattered. So, it was blown up from the inside!” — a local resident told Readovka.

Eyewitnesses have repeatedly confirmed that the explosion of the drama theater in Mariupol was a prepared provocation of the "Azov" people who mined the building in advance.


I should say I'm surprised by your continual acceptance of such patently obvious Russian propaganda. That, and your enthusiastically regurgitating it - verbatim. I guess I've gotten used to it though.

The Russian army has been indiscriminately pounding various Ukrainian Cities and towns for almost 10 weeks now. It would be difficult for even the most gullible useful idiot to post that hasn't resulted in the death of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. In it's anonymity that seems quite acceptable. When though it results in an incident involving the deaths of a large number of people, which becomes front page global news, we then get this output from Russian propaganda that it was all a conspiracy (key word there) by the fascist Ukrainians to murder hundreds of their own.

Sorry to descend into the personal arena but........................... are you really that stupid? Or, are you just blindly and obediently towing the line? Baaaaaaaaaaaa!


Video testimonies cannot be propaganda. It's not the first time I heard that. From what I remember from the first video there was a guy who was living there, they saw no rocket, no missile hitting the theater. The journalist asked "How it happened then" and the man said, who knows what they hell those bastards did, everybody here says it exploded from inside.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri May 06, 2022 5:02 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Video testimonies cannot be propaganda. (really?) It's not the first time I heard that. From what I remember from the first video there was a guy who was living there, they saw no rocket, no missile hitting the theater. The journalist asked "How it happened then" and the man said, who knows what they hell those bastards did, everybody here says it exploded from inside.


Don't you - as an obviously intelligent person - find it odd? That whenever a front page story crops up - in all that daily carnage - which involves the slaughter of a large number of innocent civilians - we get a story about how it's all down to Ukranaian fascists - murdering hundreds of their own?

Come on. :roll:

Don't you think the Russian army is doing quite well on it's own when it comes to killing Ukrainians - without needing any help from the home team? :eyecrazy:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 06, 2022 5:03 pm

btw have you seen any video testimonies from those civilians who got out of Azovstal.
Of course you did. The only problem is that you saw only those who don't specify who would not let them leave.
This makes you a victim of distorted truth which is the most effective propaganda technique for brainwashing
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 06, 2022 5:07 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Video testimonies cannot be propaganda. (really?) It's not the first time I heard that. From what I remember from the first video there was a guy who was living there, they saw no rocket, no missile hitting the theater. The journalist asked "How it happened then" and the man said, who knows what they hell those bastards did, everybody here says it exploded from inside.


Don't you - as an obviously intelligent person - find it odd? That whenever a front page story crops up - in all that daily carnage - which involves the slaughter of a large number of innocent civilians - we get a story about how it's all down to Ukranaian fascists - murdering hundreds of their own?

Come on. :roll:

Don't you think the Russian army is doing quite well on it's own when it comes to killing Ukrainians - without needing any help from the home team? :eyecrazy:


From the moment they staged the fiasco about their 13 heroes at snake island who presumably told the Russians to "fuck off" whereas in reality they surrendered, I learned that these people are capable of staging every possible lie.

The 2nd biggest lie was the unsuspected pregnant woman who was filmed without her permission at the Hospital. Her own full video story was also posted here.
But you don't follow anything so there's no cure for you.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri May 06, 2022 5:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:btw have you seen any video testimonies from those civilians who got out of Azovstal.
Of course you did. The only problem is that you saw only those who don't specify who would not let them leave.
This makes you a victim of distorted truth which is the most effective propaganda technique for brainwashing


Sorry mate. The "distorted truth" is this lunatic idea (which brings me to ask - where is the great man?) that the Russian invasion of Ukraine - with all the thousands of dead and millions of displaced/refugees - is in some way perfectly reasonable. It being a sort of academic thing, to us keyboard types in Cyprus.

There is absolutely no excuse for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Which so far has involved the deaths of thousands of civilians, the enforced displacement of millions and the destruction of cities and towns. None.

To defend such is IMHO a total disgrace. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Heaven forbid the idea.

"If Putin goes everything must go!" :roll:
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