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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed May 04, 2022 7:09 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump car up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

Good post... I agree like 99% minus the nukes… probably a FOAB dropped on Kiev instead.

I think Russia should concentrate on taking out the Zelensky government to speed things up.

He is key in completely disorientating the Ukraine without leadership and poster boy.


I second that. Kick's posts are usually great.
Russia is doing a big mistake saying they don't aim at a regime change in Ukraine. Lavrov confirmed it just recently!
Zelensky and his top officials are getting rich from this war on the expense of their own people!
Regime change is a MUST, haven't they learned anything from the Americans, all it needs is just bribe a few.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed May 04, 2022 7:11 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Now looking at Ukraine I understand how easy it is for an overwhelming Army (like the Turks in 1974 were) to take small villages of upto 20K people. Last week the Russians took 5 such villages in just 2 days! The vast majority of our villages were 2-3K population, the town of Kyrenia was only 7K
I guess Nicosia back then was not more than 100K. (half the size of the town of Kherson). The big problem today is for cities having more than 300K population especially when the enemy has enough heavy weapons to go hide in the city.
Those of over a million are nearly impossible to take and there are so many in east Ukraine, Odessa, Dnipro etc.
If the Russians ever make it with conventional weapons then I will admit they are geniuses...

Imagine having to invade and occupy Russia… you’d need 100 years to get from one end to the other!


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 04, 2022 7:26 pm

Pope says NATO may have caused Russia’s invasion of Ukraine <-- The catholic church MAY have abused some kids.
https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-fr ... on-russia/

Pope offers to meet Putin, still waiting to hear back <-- You get the impression the Russians don't like this guy.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 8e5cf30a38

Putin Puts West on Notice: Moscow Can Terminate Exports and Deals
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... st-kremlin

Russia Says It Bombed U.S. and European Weapons Near Ukraine's Odesa <-- Paphitis celebrated too soon!
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... n-weaponry

NATO: Sweden Navigates Dangerous Waters <-- Not Finland?.. weird.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/05/02/n ... us-waters/

Welcome to Russia’s ‘holy war’
https://www.politico.eu/article/welcome ... -holy-war/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed May 04, 2022 8:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump car up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

Good post... I agree like 99% minus the nukes… probably a FOAB dropped on Kiev instead.

I think Russia should concentrate on taking out the Zelensky government to speed things up.

He is key in completely disorientating the Ukraine without leadership and poster boy.


I second that. Kick's posts are usually great.
Russia is doing a big mistake saying they don't aim at a regime change in Ukraine. Lavrov confirmed it just recently!
Zelensky and his top officials are getting rich from this war on the expense of their own people!
Regime change is a MUST, haven't they learned anything from the Americans, all it needs is just bribe a few.

Russia cannot nuke anybody so close to her territory. It does not make sense. She can continue to fight till she takes more and more of the territory so all the resources and farm lands are in her possession if Ukraine does not stop the war. Ukraine will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons or or any other offensive weapons on her territory. On the other hand there is no point having her as Nato member if she is not allowed to buy American weapons. So she is fucked which ever way she turns. There is only one way to solve this and that is to sit down and talk terms of peace and agree to the Russian demands.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed May 04, 2022 9:10 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump car up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

Good post... I agree like 99% minus the nukes… probably a FOAB dropped on Kiev instead.

I think Russia should concentrate on taking out the Zelensky government to speed things up.

He is key in completely disorientating the Ukraine without leadership and poster boy.


I second that. Kick's posts are usually great.
Russia is doing a big mistake saying they don't aim at a regime change in Ukraine. Lavrov confirmed it just recently!
Zelensky and his top officials are getting rich from this war on the expense of their own people!
Regime change is a MUST, haven't they learned anything from the Americans, all it needs is just bribe a few.

Russia cannot nuke anybody so close to her territory. It does not make sense. She can continue to fight till she takes more and more of the territory so all the resources and farm lands are in her possession if Ukraine does not stop the war. Ukraine will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons or or any other offensive weapons on her territory. On the other hand there is no point having her as Nato member if she is not allowed to buy American weapons. So she is fucked which ever way she turns. There is only one way to solve this and that is to sit down and talk terms of peace and agree to the Russian demands.


Between Russia losing the war to the west in Ukraine outright or nuking Ukraine’s western part with a “small” explosion to make Ukraine and the west capitulate, I can see the nuclear option being very viable. Just by Russia using even the least “harmless” nuke in Ukraine will bring the war to an end by doing the most unthinkable, then the question on Zelensky’s mind will be, which city is next and how bigger catastrophic it will be?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed May 04, 2022 9:12 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump car up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

Good post... I agree like 99% minus the nukes… probably a FOAB dropped on Kiev instead.

I think Russia should concentrate on taking out the Zelensky government to speed things up.

He is key in completely disorientating the Ukraine without leadership and poster boy.


I second that. Kick's posts are usually great.
Russia is doing a big mistake saying they don't aim at a regime change in Ukraine. Lavrov confirmed it just recently!
Zelensky and his top officials are getting rich from this war on the expense of their own people!
Regime change is a MUST, haven't they learned anything from the Americans, all it needs is just bribe a few.

Russia cannot nuke anybody so close to her territory. It does not make sense. She can continue to fight till she takes more and more of the territory so all the resources and farm lands are in her possession if Ukraine does not stop the war. Ukraine will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons or or any other offensive weapons on her territory. On the other hand there is no point having her as Nato member if she is not allowed to buy American weapons. So she is fucked which ever way she turns. There is only one way to solve this and that is to sit down and talk terms of peace and agree to the Russian demands.


I think you should reply to Kikapu's post, not mine. :wink:
I also don't think nukes are an option.
Why should they use nukes that would turn the whole world against them anyway?
Thermobaric bombs can do the job equally well, and the vast majority of the world has no idea what they are. They are environmentally friendly too. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 04, 2022 9:30 pm

...yes a new bomb to drop on 'us': there's fear.

And who drops the bomb doesn't matter, even better, for "Them".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 04, 2022 9:35 pm

Lordo wrote:There is only one way to solve this and that is to sit down and talk terms of peace and agree to the Russian demands.

In other words back to the peace agreement from 3 months ago… only this time much of the country’s infrastructure would be gone, countless thousands dead, and many displaced… all for nothing!

And not to mention many other repercussions affecting the world as a result of the West’s criminal hysteric handling of the whole situation whose motive was never the wellbeing of the Ukraine, but the sinister destruction of Russia!

And imagine if the West had been successful against Russia… they’d move on to destroy China, and then perhaps India, and anyone else of a certain size and strength (other BRICS) in a maniacal campaign to eliminate all competition!

What a despicable satanic entity the West has become while claiming to “civilized”!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed May 04, 2022 9:48 pm

Allowing Zelensky to slip out of Kiev at around day 10 (I think) was Russia’s big mistake in this war when they should’ve targeted the clown and his mates from day one!

Had they done so, Russia would’ve eliminated the treasonous Ukrainian government that was already in a sinister partnership with the US, and a new president would’ve had to step in and most likely a more favorable one to Russia.

With Zelensky dead and America’s plans foiled the war would’ve been over within 2-3 weeks!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed May 04, 2022 10:03 pm

Great video about the civilians in Azovstal. Don't miss it.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/3149
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