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[Paphitis]

You don't do that when you are invaded. I'm so sorry but you fight and you fight to the end.

When you are invaded, you fight, even if the invading force ends up in Paphos.

Sorry to disappoint Paphitis.... but we didn't have 40 countries sending us arms.

But we did have Nixon sending Turkey the necessary landing craft to pave the invasion just months earlier.

Ohn yes and its so wonderful Get Real.

40 countries standing up against evil. Wonderful!

Yes, and now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go skip in the garden naked!

About time you admit that you are totally bonkers!

You know you can take some meds right?

Sorry, I was affected by your Ukrainian euphoria.

I totally understand.

Who wouldn't be affected by Ukrainians whooping some Russian invader ass?

Things not going well for Pootin. You do undertsand he is losing right?

I know! It's hard to fathom such a stupid miscalculation from him. Even Chy-na is rubbing its hands atm. I can actually imaging Xi Peanut laughing his tits off!

[Get Real!]

I totally understand.

Who wouldn't be affected by Ukrainians whooping some Russian invader ass?

Things not going well for Pootin. You do undertsand he is losing right?

I know! It's hard to fathom such a stupid miscalculation from him. Even Chy-na is rubbing its hands atm. I can actually imaging Xi Peanut laughing his tits off!

Not to worry, Russia can always cede Moscow and St Petersburg… I just hope Zelensky is satisfied!

[Londonrake]

I think Xi's got a few of his own problems at the moment, without taking on somebody else's

[Kikapu]

Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there, done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump card up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

[Get Real!]

Paphitis, you are giving too much credit to Ukraine against Russia in this war. The truth of the matter is, you have many countries who are giving weapons to Ukraine along with logistics and intelligence to fight Russia in the hopes to defeat Russia. Russia will not be defeated in Ukraine no matter how much weapons are sent to Ukraine by other countries. It will only prolong the war to the detriment of Ukraine and creating another cold (freezing) war between Russia and the west which will last for many years, far more than the last one where the nuclear race will be intensified at a rapid pace to even place nuclear weapons into space. Welcome to “Star Wars”. Russia has the upper hand in sending rockets to space with large payloads.

The west might claim hallow victory in Ukraine by temporarily slowing the Russians, but the west and Ukraine already lost the war and the world peace. Next you will see China do the same in Taiwan as what Russia has done in Ukraine. How is the west going to send weapons to Taiwan or will they just say,”been there done that” and still lost the war. The point is, the war in Ukraine was never the answer, but that’s what the west wanted and that’s what they have received. Ukraine is used as nothing but a “chessboard” by the west to go to war with Russia which nothing good will come from it.

Now we are where we are and the war in Ukraine will continue because the west and Russia cannot stop until one side wins outright and the other loses the same way. In my opinion, Russia will nuke Ukraine to end the war before she would accept an unconditional defeat, therefore, Russia has a trump car up her sleeve to be victorious in Ukraine. How long the war lasts is really up to the west, but the end result is going to be a military victory to Russia. Politically she will be ostracized internationally for awhile, but that will be better than losing the war in Ukraine. This is how I see things playing out in Ukraine.

Good post... I agree like 99% minus the nukes… probably a FOAB dropped on Kiev instead.

I think Russia should concentrate on taking out the Zelensky government to speed things up.

He is key in completely disorientating the Ukraine without leadership and poster boy.

[Lordo]

Lets face it, there is only one way this will end and Ukraine will lose over 30% of their territory. Only through pure stupidity of their leadership both political and military. How the fuck d they allow their military to walk about with a fuckin nazi flag.

[Pyrpolizer]

Meanwhile, thousands of tonnes of Western arms are entering Ukraine from within NATO territory - in particular from Poland and Hungary.

Ukraine is being armed to the teeth and they are already spanking some ass so i'd hate to think what they will do over the next few months...

They will be hiding in the cities. Isn't what they always do?

Well, if they took a leaf out of your book, they would have ran for their lives like you did, and fallen to their knees like begging paupers.

You don't do that when you are invaded. I'm so sorry but you fight and you fight to the end.

When you are invaded, you fight, even if the invading force ends up in Paphos.

You see now what it means to be Ukrainian? The same as being a Greek in WW2, Or a French Resitence fighter and so many more heroes from so many countries.

So why don't you go to Ukraine to prove how much of a hero you are?

Why would I do that? I never claimed to be a hero.

So I won't be going to Ukraine let me give you a tip.

But let me tell you this. If America was invaded, I would be happy to join Americans to defend their country since that is where home is.

If I was in Australia and it was invaded, then I will fight no matter what the odds.

If I was in Cyprus in 1974, I would feel betrayed by the RoC and the Cypriot people, because for me, I would be prepared to fight using any means against the Turkish Invader. You idiots ran away. let me tell you, Americans, Australians and Ukrainians will not run away. As far as I'm concerned, people should be shot for running away because that is a betrayal. The onlky people that should run away are mothers and their children. Akso old men. Every other male and fit woman, stays.

And yes I totally agree. Such words are easier said than done, but I do know how I feel in my heart and I do have a very deep sense of obligation. I would rather not fight for America, nor Australia, nor Cuyprus. But if it is necessary, then I got no choice.

You will never have to fight in America, because the ones who will invade you will be nukes.

Tell me how would you fight in Cyprus in 1974 having a Martini rifle -most people didn't even have that. How would you shoot down F-16s bombing you with Napalm bombs, how would you fight against dozens of Tanks heading towards you followed by 100s of soldiers?
What would you do if your Christodoulides (aka modern image of Clerides) yielded to the blackmail of the Turks that they would go ahead taking the whole of Cyprus unless we ceased fire?

[Get Real!]

European and American anti-tank weapons going out cheap…

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Buy two and get a babushka doll free!

[Pyrpolizer]

Now looking at Ukraine I understand how easy it is for an overwhelming Army (like the Turks in 1974 were) to take small villages of upto 20K people. Last week the Russians took 5 such villages in just 2 days! The vast majority of our villages were 2-3K population, the town of Kyrenia was only 7K
I guess Nicosia back then was not more than 100K. (half the size of the town of Kherson). The big problem today is for cities having more than 300K population especially when the enemy has enough heavy weapons to go hide in the city.
Those of over a million are nearly impossible to take and there are so many in east Ukraine, Odessa, Dnipro etc.
If the Russians ever make it with conventional weapons then I will admit they are geniuses...

[Get Real!]

Now looking at Ukraine I understand how easy it is for an overwhelming Army (like the Turks in 1974 were) to take small villages of upto 20K people. Last week the Russians took 5 such villages in just 2 days! The vast majority of our villages were 2-3K population, the town of Kyrenia was only 7K
I guess Nicosia back then was not more than 100K. (half the size of the town of Kherson). The big problem today is for cities having more than 300K population especially when the enemy has enough heavy weapons to go hide in the city.
Those of over a million are nearly impossible to take and there are so many in east Ukraine, Odessa, Dnipro etc.
If the Russians ever make it with conventional weapons then I will admit they are geniuses...

Imagine having to invade and occupy Russia… you’d need 100 years to get from one end to the other!