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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon May 02, 2022 2:52 pm

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I would ask - Lordo, Kiks, Pyrpro, Maximus - whoever - what their view is of this sort of lunacy?

Surely everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and a response is always needed to the contrary regardless the level of lunacy it may seem to others, does it? It’s not as if GR has his finger on the nuclear button for the rest of us to persuade him from pressing it. Now, if he did have his finger on the button, well, that would be another story with lots of comebacks from the rest of us. :wink:


Nuclear war is lunacy, but it didnt stop the US dropping one on Japan.

unfortunately, we live in a world were there has to be a balance of power.

because there are lunatics with nuclear weapons.

Do I think a nuclear bomb should be dropped on the UK or the US? Absolutely not.

Mr-from-NG summed things up pretty well. Ukraine was a peaceful functioning state, but their leader didnt appreciate the delicate balance of power his country needed to maintain. There was no need for all this?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon May 02, 2022 3:23 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
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I would ask - Lordo, Kiks, Pyrpro, Maximus - whoever - what their view is of this sort of lunacy?

Surely everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and a response is always needed to the contrary regardless the level of lunacy it may seem to others, does it? It’s not as if GR has his finger on the nuclear button for the rest of us to persuade him from pressing it. Now, if he did have his finger on the button, well, that would be another story with lots of comebacks from the rest of us. :wink:


Nuclear war is lunacy, but it didnt stop the US dropping one on Japan.

unfortunately, we live in a world were there has to be a balance of power.

because there are lunatics with nuclear weapons.

Do I think a nuclear bomb should be dropped on the UK or the US? Absolutely not.

Mr-from-NG summed things up pretty well. Ukraine was a peaceful functioning state, but their leader didnt appreciate the delicate balance of power his country needed to maintain. There was no need for all this?


I obviously messed up on my first attempt to post so here goes again. I don't think GR's prediction of possible nuclear war is way off the mark. How many of us thought Russia would attempt an invasion of Ukraine? Threats from America, Nato and the whole of Europe and look where we are today. Putin is not a man to mess with so anything is possible. I dread the day he is cornered and under immense pressure. Please LR, we know what GR and a few other CF members would say. What would yo say would happen if Putin had his back against the wall and facing defeat?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 02, 2022 3:25 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
I would ask - Lordo, Kiks, Pyrpro, Maximus - whoever - what their view is of this sort of lunacy?

Surely everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and a response is always needed to the contrary regardless the level of lunacy it may seem to others, does it? It’s not as if GR has his finger on the nuclear button for the rest of us to persuade him from pressing it. Now, if he did have his finger on the button, well, that would be another story with lots of comebacks from the rest of us. :wink:


Nuclear war is lunacy, but it didnt stop the US dropping one on Japan.

unfortunately, we live in a world were there has to be a balance of power.

because there are lunatics with nuclear weapons.

Do I think a nuclear bomb should be dropped on the UK or the US? Absolutely not.

Mr-from-NG summed things up pretty well. Ukraine was a peaceful functioning state, but their leader didnt appreciate the delicate balance of power his country needed to maintain. There was no need for all this?


As an Australian who is aware somewhat of Australian Military History and the war Australia fought against Japan in WW2, mainly with our British, French and American allies, the US had no choice but to drop Fat Boy on Japan.

Japan was asked to surrender to end the war in the Pacific. This was after quite extensive USAF bombings of Japanese Cities - even carpet bombing. The Emperor was not going to surrender. It is degrading to Japan and his reign. Culturally, surrender is a very dirty word for Japanese. Same as failure at school and in business.

Which is why suicide is huge in Japan even to this day.

As the allies were contemplating a D Day style invasion of Japan, it was evident that allied losses would be immense. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of our soldiers, and we may still lose fighting them on their turf, just like Russia will lose flighting Ukrainians in Ukraine. It doesn't matter how powerful we were. We would have come against 60 million Japanese. Women and children will be fighting our troops. Our troops would in the end be chasing an invisible enemy.

Japanese are a very proud people. Tough as all hell. Barbaric in battle too. But also a culture with a deep sense of honour. To put some context on what it was like fighting Japan, allied troops feared the Japanese much more than German Soldiers. It's not that German Soldiers were not as good, they were quite baddass themselves but the Japanese took it to another level. If you had a choice to surrender as a POW to the Nazis or Japanese, you would pick the Nazis everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Japanese Soldiers made the MAZIS look like cuddly teddy bears.

So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many more years of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 02, 2022 3:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many years more of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.

I was thinking something somewhat similar… Russia fires several hundred hypersonic nukes which cannot be detected in time for a response and America remains silent… there’s no need for them to surrender even!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 02, 2022 3:51 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many years more of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.

I was thinking something somewhat similar… Russia fires several hundred hypersonic nukes which cannot be detected in time for a response and America remains silent… there’s no need for them to surrender even!


OK then, do it!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 02, 2022 3:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many years more of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.

I was thinking something somewhat similar… Russia fires several hundred hypersonic nukes which cannot be detected in time for a response and America remains silent… there’s no need for them to surrender even!

OK then, do it!

It would be nice if it were up to me, it would’ve already happened but alas…
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon May 02, 2022 3:56 pm

Paphitis wrote:
As an Australian who is aware somewhat of Australian Military History and the war Australia fought against Japan in WW2, mainly with our British, French and American allies, the US had no choice but to drop Fat Boy on Japan.

Japan was asked to surrender to end the war in the Pacific. This was after quite extensive USAF bombings of Japanese Cities - even carpet bombing. The Emperor was not going to surrender. It is degrading to Japan and his reign. Culturally, surrender is a very dirty word for Japanese. Same as failure at school and in business.

Which is why suicide is huge in Japan even to this day.

As the allies were contemplating a D Day style invasion of Japan, it was evident that allied losses would be immense. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of our soldiers, and we may still lose fighting them on their turf, just like Russia will lose flighting Ukrainians in Ukraine. It doesn't matter how powerful we were. We would have come against 60 million Japanese. Women and children will be fighting our troops. Our troops would in the end be chasing an invisible enemy.

Japanese are a very proud people. Tough as all hell. Barbaric in battle too. But also a culture with a deep sense of honour. To put some context on what it was like fighting Japan, allied troops feared the Japanese much more than German Soldiers. It's not that German Soldiers were not as good, they were quite baddass themselves but the Japanese took it to another level. If you had a choice to surrender as a POW to the Nazis or Japanese, you would pick the Nazis everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Japanese Soldiers made the MAZIS look like cuddly teddy bears.

So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many more years of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.


You have just advocated Russia nuking Ukraine with your above post. :wink:

Case closed! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 02, 2022 4:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
As an Australian who is aware somewhat of Australian Military History and the war Australia fought against Japan in WW2, mainly with our British, French and American allies, the US had no choice but to drop Fat Boy on Japan.

Japan was asked to surrender to end the war in the Pacific. This was after quite extensive USAF bombings of Japanese Cities - even carpet bombing. The Emperor was not going to surrender. It is degrading to Japan and his reign. Culturally, surrender is a very dirty word for Japanese. Same as failure at school and in business.

Which is why suicide is huge in Japan even to this day.

As the allies were contemplating a D Day style invasion of Japan, it was evident that allied losses would be immense. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of our soldiers, and we may still lose fighting them on their turf, just like Russia will lose flighting Ukrainians in Ukraine. It doesn't matter how powerful we were. We would have come against 60 million Japanese. Women and children will be fighting our troops. Our troops would in the end be chasing an invisible enemy.

Japanese are a very proud people. Tough as all hell. Barbaric in battle too. But also a culture with a deep sense of honour. To put some context on what it was like fighting Japan, allied troops feared the Japanese much more than German Soldiers. It's not that German Soldiers were not as good, they were quite baddass themselves but the Japanese took it to another level. If you had a choice to surrender as a POW to the Nazis or Japanese, you would pick the Nazis everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Japanese Soldiers made the MAZIS look like cuddly teddy bears.

So America had to driop the Bomb. It was that or condemn hundreds of thousands of troops to death and many more years of war.

Once the 3 bombs were dropped, Japan had no choice but to surrender.


You have just advocated Russia nuking Ukraine with your above post. :wink:

Case closed! :wink:

:lol: I like how the hypocrites have every excuse imaginable for destroying others but are outraged when you suggest the reverse!

Total CUNTS aren’t they…
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 02, 2022 4:09 pm

I would write the name of each US victim on each nuke, like this…

“This one is from Syria”
“This one is from Afghanistan”
“This one is from Libya”
“This one is from Iraq”
“This one is from Iran”
“This one is from Venezuela”
“This one is from Panama”

And so forth, to make it nice and personal! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon May 02, 2022 4:23 pm

Russians are now collecting dead bodies as they go along… (images + videos) <--- Reminds me of the Clint Eastwood movie when he’s counting…. 25, 26, 27… hey, there’s one missing!
https://southfront.org/war-in-ukraine-d ... he-ground/

Some captured Ukrainian on video mumbling gripes and profanities… :?
https://southfront.org/in-video-ukraini ... americans/

Some suicidal American pseudo-Rambos have joined in... <-- I’m convinced some people think the Ukraine is a huge euthanasia center! :)
http://worldnews24.over-blog.com/2022/0 ... raine.html

Video testimony of a captured senior lieutenant describing war crimes…
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/15 ... l4JQ6O.mp4
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