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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 01, 2022 8:25 am

Two reasons for the likelihood of nuclear fallout...


1. America’s overconfidence with a total fool at the helm:

The foolhardy Americans think they’ve got it all figured out...

"U.S. Sees No Threat of Russia Using Nuclear Weapons Despite Rhetoric Official"
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... c-official

But the truth of the matter is that any preparations for a nuclear attack on the US will be done in the utmost of secrecy and when they least expect it, and by the time the Americans do realize anything it’ll be too late anyway.

The so-called and imaginary American “intel” is nothing but a longtime laughable failure of epic proportions that one could write many pages about.


2. America’s childish plan for the Ukraine guaranteeing a nuclear ending:

The notion that America can just keep supplying the Ukrainian military indefinitely and with evermore deadly weapons leading to an eventual Russian defeat, is downright stupid because upping the ante is not an American monopoly!

The US cannot control or even predict what Russia’s response will be with every American escalation and they can no longer even monitor what have now become very clouded red lines!

The bottom line is that Russia will always have the final word of how this all ends, and no doubt they’ll make sure it doesn’t end in a Russian defeat.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sun May 01, 2022 8:28 am

Get Real! wrote:Two reasons for the likelihood of nuclear fallout...


1. America’s overconfidence with a total fool at the helm:

The foolhardy Americans think they’ve got it all figured out...

"U.S. Sees No Threat of Russia Using Nuclear Weapons Despite Rhetoric Official"
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... c-official

But the truth of the matter is that any preparations for a nuclear attack on the US will be done in the utmost of secrecy and when they least expect it, and by the time the Americans do realize anything it’ll be too late anyway.

The so-called and imaginary American “intel” is nothing but a longtime laughable failure of epic proportions that one could write many pages about.


2. America’s childish plan for the Ukraine guaranteeing a nuclear ending:

The notion that America can just keep supplying the Ukrainian military indefinitely and with evermore deadly weapons leading to an eventual Russian defeat, is downright stupid because upping the ante is not an American monopoly!

The US cannot control or even predict what Russia’s response will be with every American escalation and they can no longer even monitor what have now become very clouded red lines!

The bottom line is that Russia will always have the final word of how this all ends, and no doubt they’ll make sure it doesn’t end in a Russian defeat.

More rubbish from a child molester. FUCK OFF YOU stupid bastard.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 01, 2022 8:35 am

Today's news from the front lines with lots of videos, images, stories and testimonies...

Yet another testimony of Ukrainian war crimes…
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/2882

Ukrainian military mistakenly shot down two of its own helicopters <-- Not so friendly fire! :)
https://avia-pro.net/news/ukrainskie-vo ... vertolyota

The Ukrainian military accused the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of sending them to the slaughterhouse
https://avia-pro.net/news/ukrainskie-vo ... -na-boynyu

More Russian advances, captures, and some British SAS captured… <-- Oh Boris! :lol:
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ek ... x_tr_hl=en

More than 40 British military personnel killed in Ukraine <-- Someone lend Boris a comb! :)
https://en.news-front.info/2022/04/30/m ... n-ukraine/

Ukrainian POW speaks of his experience (video with transcript)
https://southfront.org/in-video-ukraini ... rs-of-war/

Chechen Soldier’s testimony on freeing civilians from Azov…
http://thesaker.is/chechen-soldier-in-m ... true-face/

The West has finally exposed its Nazi nature
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/oped/the-we ... zi-nature/

America’s war crime probe against Russia is a farce
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/oped/americ ... s-a-farce/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sun May 01, 2022 8:38 am

Get Real! wrote:Today's news from the front lines with lots of videos, images, stories and testimonies...

Yet another testimony of Ukrainian war crimes…
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/2882

Ukrainian military mistakenly shot down two of its own helicopters <-- Not so friendly fire! :)
https://avia-pro.net/news/ukrainskie-vo ... vertolyota

The Ukrainian military accused the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of sending them to the slaughterhouse
https://avia-pro.net/news/ukrainskie-vo ... -na-boynyu

More Russian advances, captures, and some British SAS captured… <-- Oh Boris! :lol:
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ek ... x_tr_hl=en

More than 40 British military personnel killed in Ukraine <-- Someone lend Boris a comb! :)
https://en.news-front.info/2022/04/30/m ... n-ukraine/

Ukrainian POW speaks of his experience (video with transcript)
https://southfront.org/in-video-ukraini ... rs-of-war/

Chechen Soldier’s testimony on freeing civilians from Azov…
http://thesaker.is/chechen-soldier-in-m ... true-face/

The West has finally exposed its Nazi nature
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/oped/the-we ... zi-nature/

America’s war crime probe against Russia is a farce
https://www.weeklyblitz.net/oped/americ ... s-a-farce/

Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking PERVERT. Leave little girls alone you disgusting piece of shit. Did I not
Tell you to stay away ? NOW FUCK OFF YOU DISGUSTING PERVERT. GO AND TOP YOUR FILTHY DISGUSTING SELF
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 01, 2022 9:54 am

Pretty much what I've been saying from the onset...

Global concern: "Biden 'tactics' in Ukraine could lead to World War III"
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/pa ... x_tr_hl=en


The more you support America the more it encourages it to enslave you...

The People Behind DHS's Orwellian "Disinformation Governance Board"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/peo ... ance-board


Wakey... wakey... time for you...

The Empire Of Lies, Operation Z, & The New Global Chessboard
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... chessboard
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sun May 01, 2022 10:40 am

Get Real! wrote:Pretty much what I've been saying from the onset...

Global concern: "Biden 'tactics' in Ukraine could lead to World War III"
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/pa ... x_tr_hl=en


The more you support America the more it encourages it to enslave you...

The People Behind DHS's Orwellian "Disinformation Governance Board"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/peo ... ance-board


Wakey... wakey... time for you...

The Empire Of Lies, Operation Z, & The New Global Chessboard
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... chessboard

More diarheia from the Pe5vert . :x
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 01, 2022 11:59 am

Get Real! wrote:Two reasons for the likelihood of nuclear fallout...


1. America’s overconfidence with a total fool at the helm:

The foolhardy Americans think they’ve got it all figured out...

"U.S. Sees No Threat of Russia Using Nuclear Weapons Despite Rhetoric Official"
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... c-official

But the truth of the matter is that any preparations for a nuclear attack on the US will be done in the utmost of secrecy and when they least expect it, and by the time the Americans do realize anything it’ll be too late anyway.

The so-called and imaginary American “intel” is nothing but a longtime laughable failure of epic proportions that one could write many pages about.


2. America’s childish plan for the Ukraine guaranteeing a nuclear ending:

The notion that America can just keep supplying the Ukrainian military indefinitely and with evermore deadly weapons leading to an eventual Russian defeat, is downright stupid because upping the ante is not an American monopoly!

The US cannot control or even predict what Russia’s response will be with every American escalation and they can no longer even monitor what have now become very clouded red lines!

The bottom line is that Russia will always have the final word of how this all ends, and no doubt they’ll make sure it doesn’t end in a Russian defeat.


Few weeks ago I made a statement that weapons from NATO countries will continue flowing into Ukraine until there won’t be any need for Ukrainians for such weapons against Russia. Maybe some took that statement as being that these weapons will eventually help Ukraine win the war against Russia, hence not needing anymore weapons. In actual fact, what I meant was, that there won’t be Ukraine as we know it to need anymore weapons because right now, if there is one candidate country which is likely to be nuked is not the UK or the USA, but Ukraine to end this proxy war between Russia and the West in Ukraine. There will be no downside for Russia nuking Ukraine and no down side for the West since it has already been decided that NATO/Russia will not engage each other directly over Ukraine.

From time to time us humans need to be reminded what damage Nuclear weapons can do since most of today’s generations has no idea about Hiroshima and Nagasaki almost 80 years ago, so, perhaps Ukraine getting nuked in one or two places will save the planet of such disasters and save many millions of lives going forward for another 80+ years, just as the justification the Americans made by nuking Japan back then. Most definitely far more people will perish if a nuclear war was to break out between today’s nuclear power countries than Russia nuking Ukraine to stop the possibility on nuclear powers going at each other first. Zelensky had a choice to make before the war started to prevent it, but chose not to, so now, he and his country needs to take responsibility for trying to bite more than he could chew. The rest of the world should not pay the price for his stupidity. He may choose to emulate George Custer’s last stand against the overwhelming force against his country, but then he must also accept his defeat. Russia will not continue to stay in this fight in Ukraine forever and then walk away empty handed. Ukraine will be made to pay the price no matter what!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun May 01, 2022 12:31 pm

I cannot see Russia using nuclear weapons even in Ukraine. In a matter of perhaps a few more months, Russia will occupy what she intended and Ukraine will not be in any position to do anything about it. Russia has plenty of weapons to hit Kiev, especially the government buildings and turn it into another Grozny if the idiot continues to play West against the Russians and of course it is Ukraine that will play the price. The west must also take the blame of encouraging the idiot to fight rather sit down and work out a political arrangement with the Russian Ukrainians in the east.

The plan is now very clear.

Russia wants independent regions in the east and the south to join Dniester Moldovans that declared independence.

The stupidity does not end there. Russia will do to Latvia what she did to Ukraine and arm the Russians and start fighting there. The Latvians will not know what hit her. And of course Russia will send troops in as there is no way of knowing where these fighters are from. Proving they are actually Russian will be impossible and Nato has shown itself gutless when it comes to combative war. They just like to shoot from a distance with their toys. On the other hand the Russians will now have combat experience and battle readiness.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 01, 2022 12:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:Few weeks ago I made a statement that weapons from NATO countries will continue flowing into Ukraine until there won’t be any need for Ukrainians for such weapons against Russia. Maybe some took that statement as being that these weapons will eventually help Ukraine win the war against Russia, hence not needing anymore weapons. In actual fact, what I meant was, that there won’t be Ukraine as we know it to need anymore weapons because right now, if there is one candidate country which is likely to be nuked is not the UK or the USA, but Ukraine to end this proxy war between Russia and the West in Ukraine. There will be no downside for Russia nuking Ukraine and no down side for the West since it has already been decided that NATO/Russia will not engage each other directly over Ukraine.

From time to time us humans need to be reminded what damage Nuclear weapons can do since most of today’s generations has no idea about Hiroshima and Nagasaki almost 80 years ago, so, perhaps Ukraine getting nuked in one or two places will save the planet of such disasters and save many millions of lives going forward for another 80+ years, just as the justification the Americans made by nuking Japan back then. Most definitely far more people will perish if a nuclear war was to break out between today’s nuclear power countries than Russia nuking Ukraine to stop the possibility on nuclear powers going at each other first. Zelensky had a choice to make before the war started to prevent it, but chose not to, so now, he and his country needs to take responsibility for trying to bite more than he could chew. The rest of the world should not pay the price for his stupidity. He may choose to emulate George Custer’s last stand against the overwhelming force against his country, but then he must also accept his defeat. Russia will not continue to stay in this fight in Ukraine forever and then walk away empty handed. Ukraine will be made to pay the price no matter what!

I don’t agree that the Ukraine will be nuked because Russia has other conventional powerful bombs they can use if the goal were to flatten Kiev or Lviev, as well as bombers that can carpet-bomb.

Also, the Ukraine borders with Russia and Bellarus so it’s not the smartest idea nuking your next-door neighbor, unless of course you can control the direction of the winds! :)

I think nuking is reserved for powerful enemies that are also nuclear powers that can strike back, and who are also responsible for the military buildup in the Ukraine, like the US and the UK.

If I were Russia these are the two I would be eyeing to nuke if the war was drugging on too much and I was getting anxious to finish it.

But I do agree about Zelensky being 100% responsible for all of this, but unfortunately he is under the umbrella of the criminal US which instigated all of this, and unless the Russians can get him in a strike either in Kiev or Lviev then he’ll probably never face justice.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun May 01, 2022 12:41 pm

Lordo wrote:The stupidity does not end there. Russia will do to Latvia what she did to Ukraine and arm the Russians and start fighting there. The Latvians will not know what hit her. And of course Russia will send troops in as there is no way of knowing where these fighters are from. Proving they are actually Russian will be impossible and Nato has shown itself gutless when it comes to combative war. They just like to shoot from a distance with their toys. On the other hand the Russians will now have combat experience and battle readiness.

That'll be an interesting one... I haven't actually looked into the diaspora of each of these little soviet states but yes... Russia may well punish these fools at a future date in the way you mention.

The same thing with Israel which has gradually commenced sending weapons to the Ukraine... I wouldn't be surprised if all the captured hardware are sent to Hezbollah to teach the Israelis a lesson, and rightly so!
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