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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:31 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The area within the yellow pins is mostly agricultural land but still under Ukrainian control. White lines are the periphery of Lugansk and Donesk

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You got it the wrong way round... yellow pins is Russian and red pins are Ukie.

GE isn't color-coded... just coincidence.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:

Yep, the world is deadly serious.

In fact, there will be a lot more than 33 billion. Ukraine has an open cheque book. The price of Russia winning this war will be in the tens of Trillions. The west can't afford for Russia to win. As a result, Ukraine will be fed to be able to defend their country indefinately, till the day the cost for Russia gets to the point where it's just not worth it.

Russia must lose this war and it will lose this war.

Says who? You General?

Enjoy!

33 billion for the US is NOTHING. The US can just print it and raise interest rates to control inflation.

For now...

The question is, how long can Russia sustain this war when hundreds of their soldiers are being killed each week. The Ukrainians are defending their homeland and that sustains them to perpetuity. Russia has no such passion or stomach for the long haul.

You most probably haven't seen which commanders abandon their soldiers. Russian commanders are historically known to lead their soldiers in the battle. And btw the Russians got tired of capturing POWs. There are countless every single today. They probably hold > 70,000 already. Imagine how many the dead ones are.

So, might as well withdrawal withyour tails between your legs invaders.


When I said serious I meant dangerous escalation to either in Ukraine e.g. with thermobaric bombs, or strikes directly to Poland/Romania, which may escalate to WWIII. But you were such a fool that you thought serious meant determined to spend money....


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:46 pm

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Londonrake wrote:Yes. Day 66 of the Ukraine invasion and - as has always been the case among the die-hard apologists - every one brings yet more good news for Russia.

We’re constantly bringing VIDEO evidence from the front lines of enemy dead, captured, wounded and so forth… I now ask… what exactly are Ukie apologists bringing other than hot air? :)

Take a look at Paphitis… having absolutely nothing to report he’s left fantasizing of what may happen 10 years from now! :roll:


You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:49 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Yes. Day 66 of the Ukraine invasion and - as has always been the case among the die-hard apologists - every one brings yet more good news for Russia.

We’re constantly bringing VIDEO evidence from the front lines of enemy dead, captured, wounded and so forth… I now ask… what exactly are Ukie apologists bringing other than hot air? :)

Take a look at Paphitis… having absolutely nothing to report he’s left fantasizing of what may happen 10 years from now! :roll:


You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.

VIDEO EVIDENCE is VIDEO EVIDENCE... it cannot be manufactured! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Yes. Day 66 of the Ukraine invasion and - as has always been the case among the die-hard apologists - every one brings yet more good news for Russia.

We’re constantly bringing VIDEO evidence from the front lines of enemy dead, captured, wounded and so forth… I now ask… what exactly are Ukie apologists bringing other than hot air? :)

Take a look at Paphitis… having absolutely nothing to report he’s left fantasizing of what may happen 10 years from now! :roll:


You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.

VIDEO EVIDENCE is VIDEO EVIDENCE... it cannot be manufactured! :roll:


Actually, that's not true and I suspect you would very quickly refute any videos depicting Ukrainian orientated/viewed events. Calling them fake/manufactured.

That's the world you've created on this forum and - in the wider sphere - the reality of the digital/Photoshopped one we now live in.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:57 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Yes. Day 66 of the Ukraine invasion and - as has always been the case among the die-hard apologists - every one brings yet more good news for Russia.

We’re constantly bringing VIDEO evidence from the front lines of enemy dead, captured, wounded and so forth… I now ask… what exactly are Ukie apologists bringing other than hot air? :)

Take a look at Paphitis… having absolutely nothing to report he’s left fantasizing of what may happen 10 years from now! :roll:


You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.

VIDEO EVIDENCE is VIDEO EVIDENCE... it cannot be manufactured! :roll:

Actually, that's not true and I suspect you would very quickly refute any videos depicting Ukrainian orientated/viewed events. Calling them fake/manufactured.

That's the world you've created on this forum and - in the wider sphere - the reality of the digital/Photoshopped one we now live in.

Talk about being in denial... when HUNDREDS of videos are uploaded from the front lines to Telegram instantly and daily!

OK... go crawl in your bed in a fetal position in the hope it'll change things! :lol:

Ask yourself… how come the Ukrainians aren’t uploading similar videos?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:01 pm

Londonrake wrote:Rumour has it Putin will declare all out war against the "fascists" - on the big day (May 9th) and invoke a general call up.

If so, what would that indicate?

it would indicate the 3:1 in arms superiority is not enough to encounter a 10:1 military personnel.
Is that difficult to understand?


Firstly, we're not dealing any more with the farcical "special military operation" but a recognition of invasion against a neighbouring country. For whatever contrived reason.

Secondly, that the initial plan, which perceived a lightning blitzkrieg, taking Kiev in a matter of days and installing a puppet government, was always pie in the sky. The idea Russia's army would be welcomed as "liberators" shown for the fantasy it was.

Fantasy in the sky is in your head. The 70% Russian population in Donbas - which is most of the the Eastern Ukraine welcomed them as liberators. FACT. Never you heard of that of course...

The reality - Ukrainian forces have fought well against a vastly superior invading army. An army which has shown itself to be unbelievably inept in all spheres.

According to Western "experts". Who never studied any military operation of this type

Moreover, that Russia's attempts to destroy any opposition in Ukraine and annexe the country are dead-in-the-water.

That was never the case. The scope was always to split Ukraine and establish independent states in the eastern part.


It looks like being a long and debilitating slog for the Russians. Making Afghanistan a walk in the park by comparison.

What it looks like and what the reality is are 2 different things.
A soldier in war fights for his life and realizes that by the minute he sees the man next to him dropping dead. From there on he becomes an animal.


Fundamentally, all the blood, gore and suffering has come down to one thing. The survival of Vladimir Putin.
I have already answered the most important nonsense.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:07 pm

Londonrake wrote:You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Is that the reason you provide no evidence? Or is it because you have none?
Stop the childish excuses.


Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:17 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Is that the reason you provide no evidence? Or is it because you have none?
Stop the childish excuses.


Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.


The reason I don't tend to reply to your responses is twofold.

Firstly, because you're basically just a GR sycophant on this subject and I don't see the point in saying the same things twice.

Secondly because of your usual attempts to belittle. Which frankly do you no favours and in fact I believe make you look a bit of a prat.

What's "evidence". Clearly, nobody on either side of the argument here accepts anything the other says.

Notwithstanding, we are now in day 66 of the Russian invasion of a neighbouring country and the fighting and killing of people goes on. Is that a contentious fact?

Do get yourself out of GR's ass and start forming opinions of your own on the matter. Then, you will be worth the odd reply or two. :wink:

Enough?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:32 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:You're constantly posting stuff from Russian run, Conspiracy Theorist or outright anti-west sites. Dozens, every day. Clearly, they have no credibility and your insistence that any links to non-Russian news items - or those you selectively chose to support your agenda - are inadmissible - they've apparently been taken over by the CIA :roll: - makes any idea of sensible "debate" a farce.

Is that the reason you provide no evidence? Or is it because you have none?
Stop the childish excuses.


Day 66 of this tragedy though is a fact - and speaks for itself.

I've always said Russia will win this war. The numbers speak for themselves. Although, that depends very much on your perception of "win" and - at what cost? Clearly, they're getting a very hard time from what was supposed to be a walk in the park "special military operation". Putin has made 4 major miscalculations. He is fighting for his survival. God help us all.


The reason I don't tend to reply to your responses is twofold.

Firstly, because you're basically just a GR sycophant on this subject and I don't see the point in saying the same things twice.

Secondly because of your usual attempts to belittle. Which frankly do you no favours and in fact I believe make you look a bit of a prat.

What's "evidence". Clearly, nobody on either side of the argument here accepts anything the other says.

Notwithstanding, we are now in day 66 of the Russian invasion of a neighbouring country and the fighting and killing of people goes on. Is that a contentious fact?

Do get yourself out of GR's ass and start forming opinions of your own on the matter. Then, you will be worth the odd reply or two. :wink:

Enough?

You need to toughen up and stop taking offense at every poster’s harshness.

Men arguing can be harsh by their very nature, so it’s normal!
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