"Russia decided to recognize the pseudo-state by opening a consulate in the Occupied Territories, laying the groundwork for the looting of East-Med and setting up a new crisis around Cyprus."
Get Real! wrote:Say HELLO to TRNC! <-- Sorry, inverted commas no longer needed!
And all of a sudden, all those shortsighted Cypriots who supported America's crimes in two dozen countries while condemning Russia for defending herself from NATO expansion threats... receive a BIG reward from Russia!
Easy to predict and serves us well for our stupidity!
NB: Cyprus didn't just lose ONE vote in the UNSC but TWO! (Russia & China)
Given Putin's standing in the world, such manipulations will serve very little purpose but to demonstrate with anyone who follows him that they have the same malice and criminal intent.
...indeed, serves him well to remember what and who Russia has stood for so many years at the UNSC, neither the "Greeks" or "Turks", he betrays himself now that he is declaring that Ukrainians don't exist either.
As for China, Xi is wiser than joining in the melee Russia has started still spiraling into a costly war; Xi benefits from his silence, this distraction has provided for him much relief from the world's attention as a result.
...curious, are you expecting Russia and Turkey to become bedfellows? What does Russia get to be so generous to Turkey's ambitions? And the Ukraine, are they going to divide it among them?
Lordo wrote:What is even more interesting is the idea that sooner or later there will be a bust up in the East. What the West needs is a compromise in Ukraine to keep Russia happy so when the bust up in the east happens Russia wouls side with the west.
Instead they are encouraging and Arming Ukraine to fight on so they can increase the sanctions to destroy Russia's economic power and ignoring the bust up that is about to happen in the east.
Of course the real economic damage being done is in Ukraine which will nto be good for man nor beast by the time this is over. In anycase a country with resources cannot be destoryed. Sooner or later they will take off where they left off before the war. And in fact as the old Proff. said, it may even happen in a matter of a couple of years. Taiwan and the resources in the ocean,boy are the chinese heading for some picinc.
Talking of picnics. This should lighten the conversation a bit.
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But when it kicks off in the east and Russia sides with Chine, boy are they in for a surprise.
A compromise will only mean more war in the future.
The west must respond in a manner to ensure that Russia loses in Ukraine and it's well on the path to doing this already. In fact, you may say Russia has lost this one big time. GDP in decline by 10%. It's a total train wreck for Russia.
And NATO expansion is virtually assured with Finland, Sweden and possibly Moldova. Not just that but Austria as well.
There is no turning back now for the west. If the west doesn't succeed here, then in Pootin's eyes its weak and that has proven disastrous in the past and it will be disastrous in the future.
Of course, Russia must be allowed to save some face and not be totally humiliated. That can prove to be disastrous for the west. The idea, is that once they lose in Ukraine, they can claim some form of victory at least for domestic consumption. And this is what pootin will do even if he loses in Donbass and Luhansk. That's how Pootin operates. He is a big ego and perception is everything. Which makes him an incredibly dangerous and unsavoury henchman not at all dissimilar to the biggest tyrants of all time, including Hitler himslef.
Once the dust settles, the healing process can take place. Maybe NATO accession can be considered as well. We all know NATO is no threat to Russia. It's purely defensive and a force for peace and stability. The threats are in the East with China. And China is watching to see the west's fortitude. Again if the west is weak, it's another green light for war in the South China Sea and Taiwan.
So the west must support and arm Ukraine till the Russians withdraw in defeat.
What the Russians can say is that they cleared Ukraine of NAZIs which we all know is a false narrative. So hooray for Russia. They win. Who cares what each side claims? All I know is Russia will need to save face big time. And it's a small price to pay for peace.
But Ukrtaine will be liberated. There will be no compromise here. No exchange of Ukrainian land. There will only be war, a long protracted war till the Russian Forces area grinded down and have no more stomoach to fight and they are already showing signs of this now. Their invasion was not planned well was ill conceived, their morale is rock bottom and the Ukrainians are holding their own and winning many battles. And the messaging from Moscow is wrong and will drive their troops morale down even further. Pootin has given its military a deadline of May 9. It's hard to see how they can achieve that when the Ukrainian Military is preparing for a fight in the Donbass and Luhansk areas.
Russia has opened a hornet's nest I'm afraid and will see death by a thousand stings.
The Ukrainian Military has excelled and punched above its weight which is exactly what I predicted.
Russian Navy has lost 4 ships. Who would have thought? Can't all be from little cigarette mishaps which only make the Russian Navy look stupid.
What the Ukrainian Military is doing is text book stuff. They are an example to us all, and us Cypriots. Because you never know. Cyprus may be in Ukraine's shoes one day soon with Turkey which is another country which will be emboldened if the West shows weakness. there would be no reason for Erdogan not to follow in Pootin's footsteps.
That is the price of the west blinking and falling asleep.
The price is - Lithuiania gone, Latvia gone, Finland gone, Belarus gone, Georgia gone, Taiwan gone, South Korea gone, Cyprus gone and more
You can't negotiate with criminals. For instance, it's akin to a thief burglar entering your home and you negotiate with that thief to keep your jewells so that you can keep the Sony TV and Play Station. That's a win for the thief and encouragement to steel from more houses to get more jewells.
This is the last line of defence I'm afraid. The west showed compromise in the past in Syria, in Georgia and many other places for peace and stability but those tactics don't work on a madman that has only one objective. The west is awake now and arming the Ukrainians to do the business of defending their country and they have plenty of appetiye to do this thanks to the leadership of Zalensky.
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