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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:48 pm

...from Cyprus,
A man from Russian has been remanded in custody for four days for offences related to racism and xenophobia.

According to philenews information, the man seems to have been involved with various posts on a webpage. Following Police investigations, it was ascertained that the man was ignited hatred and xenophobia through his postings. He also released the license plates of vehicles of people who participated in a protest in Limassol in previous days.

It seems that the man is against the Russians who are in Cyprus, saying, among others that they are “fascists of Putin” and “Nazis of Putin.”
https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/russian ... enophobia/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:21 pm

Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:33 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.

If you watch the video I put up, you will get a very good understanding of what is going on.
The West's narative is full of shit. I knew that all along but what I did not realise is how much they will need Russia when the China kicks off.

There is no way to balance against the combination of China with Russia.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:05 pm

...talking of corruption,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfJRN9hlEfc

...Russia, and Russians have been caught in this exploitation too. Having pushed too far Putin complains, he in affect represents himself as a wannabe when in the end "They" push back against him. The murderous violence which has played a significant role in his rise to power, and how he has kept it for so long, is not surprising as such. He has seized the word "Nazi" to define "Ukrainians" and it is true. What is he doing to support Ukrainians, their victims, supporting "Russians" too?

...London is the biggest money-launderer, and the dirty money headed for the USA continues to lack accountability; who profits but ''Them'', and men like Putin who wants to be a "Them", bigger than "Them".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:08 pm

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.

If you watch the video I put up, you will get a very good understanding of what is going on.
The West's narative is full of shit. I knew that all along but what I did not realise is how much they will need Russia when the China kicks off.

There is no way to balance against the combination of China with Russia.


...indeed.

...and thus i ask(ed); should Russia join NATO?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:41 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.

If you watch the video I put up, you will get a very good understanding of what is going on.
The West's narative is full of shit. I knew that all along but what I did not realise is how much they will need Russia when the China kicks off.

There is no way to balance against the combination of China with Russia.


...indeed.

...and thus i ask(ed); should Russia join NATO?

Their greed of maximising their corporation's profits have blinded them from being able to see the long game of having to tackle China. They are shooting themselves inthe foot and don't even realise it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:05 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...this man makes the assumption that the people themselves do not count in these power games their Leaders play.

It is the same mistake we make when speaking International Politics, in such a construct of "Us" and "Them", the "We" we are is ignored.

Despite the expansionism the EU, NATO, and Russia practice, the consequence has been Russian leadership demonstrating its brutality, and its adversary(ies) as a result, for the brutalised, become the better choice.

Indeed there are "Ukrainians" and there are "Russians" too, this is the point he is missing; picking "sides" does nothing to end the Problem.

...he speaks of the Munroe doctrine, and in that sense he speaks of a balance in international politics; but he does not suggest anything to stop the cycle of violence, from this evolution of people's wants and needs.

He does suggest a neutral Ukraine and a plan for its rehabilitation, and he demonstrates how such a policy would mitigate the threat of Russia being driven into the CCP's sphere of influence; Asia should not be ignored.

...indeed the Problem we were blind to in Cyprus, letting it grow, will tear Ukraine into pieces too; he alludes to this in answering a question.

...indeed, America (as NATO) has played a big part in the deaths we see as a consequence of the Bucharest Conference's final declaration; he makes that clear (fighting "Ukrainians" as much as "Russians", i note, is not).

...he speaks of Merkel, and "conventional wisdom", a Media which parrots their support for this thinking and Obama's choices,

...his final answer of the question period speaks of "Ukrainians", not as a threat to all of us, but how Russians perceive them, and how "Russians" would react.

...it is an interesting perspective, coming from America; he admits he represents a minority, and while that may be so it is still worth watching.

...i ask, should Russia join NATO? (seriously)


Well it proved that people did not count in these power games, so the assumption was correct.
The "we" vs "them" started from 2014, and there's no chance after this war to ever become a WE.
Lastly, I can't consider your last question seriously....


I don't think you get the gist of my argument, the people who do not count are the "We", the "We" is the Human race, its needs in effect; it is not the "West" (if you will) or the "Russians" (in this war) that suffer the consequence of their Ignorance, they will be the last: such powers have made it obvious that "We" are not represented by "Them".

...the Ukraine has opened a whole can of worms; with the shit turned, let us hope this time something good may grow from it.

(the Problem solved as a BBF would be a good thing; if not in Cyprus (first) in the Ukraine)

...and what about Article 5, it provides great comfort to the membership which for this reason grows; isn't it exactly the same security that Russians could find comfort in (if "terrorists" continues as common ground)?

Being non-aligned takes on a greater context too as a position, if attacked, it would not be NATO one could assume the aggressor, but they may help in their capacity facing the people who pose a similar existential threat.

...pirates would be NATO's biggest focus with Russia as a member, the sea and the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS for example), its supremacy could be enforced militarily when meeting an infraction of like kind.

It is times like these where i am most hopeful; anything may happen.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:16 am

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.

If you watch the video I put up, you will get a very good understanding of what is going on.
The West's narative is full of shit. I knew that all along but what I did not realise is how much they will need Russia when the China kicks off.

There is no way to balance against the combination of China with Russia.


...indeed.

...and thus i ask(ed); should Russia join NATO?

Their greed of maximising their corporation's profits have blinded them from being able to see the long game of having to tackle China. They are shooting themselves inthe foot and don't even realise it.


Their greed is blinding them because China is the least of their problems denying the bigger threats that Hunger, COVID and Climate Change suggest. "We" need each other, "They" see their plunder being endless.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:26 am

repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:
Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Milti, you should read this article; despite being a cleric, you may agree with him in any case.

https://orthodoxtimes.com/patriarch-of- ... our-times/

“Putin thinks he’s the emperor of our times. Power can get you drunk. And the great authoritarian power blinds the eyes and you forget that you are human. It is not possible to cross yourself, pray to God, and at the same time kill children and people in general”, the Archbishop says.

If you watch the video I put up, you will get a very good understanding of what is going on.
The West's narative is full of shit. I knew that all along but what I did not realise is how much they will need Russia when the China kicks off.

There is no way to balance against the combination of China with Russia.


...indeed.

...and thus i ask(ed); should Russia join NATO?

Their greed of maximising their corporation's profits have blinded them from being able to see the long game of having to tackle China. They are shooting themselves inthe foot and don't even realise it.


Their greed is blinding them because China is the least of their problems denying the bigger threats that Hunger, COVID and Climate Change suggest. "We" need each other, "They" see their plunder being endless.

Noo RW

Hunger is good for them as it keeps people in their place from challenging them
Covid was very good for them, they made more profit than they did before covid.
Climate change they don't give a shit about as it does not really affect them. And of course when the time comes they will make a killing from green energy too.

The real issue is
1. How to stop Russia trading with Europe
2. How to do the same to China.

China is a different problem, because they are actually making a killing from the Chinese manufacturing which they cannot compete with.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:53 am

Say HELLO to TRNC! <-- Sorry, inverted commas no longer needed!

And all of a sudden, all those shortsighted Cypriots who supported America's crimes in two dozen countries while condemning Russia for defending herself from NATO expansion threats... receive a BIG reward from Russia!

https://www.kathimerini.com.cy/gr/polit ... katexomena

Easy to predict and serves us well for our stupidity!

NB: Cyprus didn't just lose ONE vote in the UNSC but TWO! (Russia & China)
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