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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:23 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlokJAUKhFE


Great video you should post more to have any effect on the herd.
Just confirms what the non herd of the forum already knew.
That the Hohols fire and Kill Russian speakers, demolish their houses and fight like "heros" by hiding in residential areas, placing their tanks next to hospitals, theaters, school yards, etc assuming they will never be attacked.

No doubt you read the same Russian sites that the Psycho reads. :lol: I also bet that you also follow religiously the mythological bullshit that he does :lol:

No, we follow ELENI the prostitute's new price catalog! :lol:

You are a disgusting piece of shit. You need treatment if only to save little girls from you filthy pervert.

Oh yeah… and that’s the way I like it! :D

Get help Psycho, otherwise you won't get to go to .....heavens :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:02 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Mariupol Residents Accuse Ukraine Of Firing On Civilians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlokJAUKhFE


Great video you should post more to have any effect on the herd.
Just confirms what the non herd of the forum already knew.
That the Hohols fire and Kill Russian speakers, demolish their houses and fight like "heros" by hiding in residential areas, placing their tanks next to hospitals, theaters, school yards, etc assuming they will never be attacked.

No doubt you read the same Russian sites that the Psycho reads. :lol: I also bet that you also follow religiously the mythological bullshit that he does :lol:

No, we follow ELENI the prostitute's new price catalog! :lol:

You are a disgusting piece of shit. You need treatment if only to save little girls from you filthy pervert.

Oh yeah… and that’s the way I like it! :D

Get help Psycho, otherwise you won't get to go to .....heavens :lol:


why don't you propose him your god called mammon??
Oh I forgot you already did. 8)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:14 pm

Lordo wrote:This is worth watching.



Listen to this man. He knows his history and has worked it. Especially what is going to happen in the next few years.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:40 pm

Lordo wrote:This is worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Listen to this man. He knows his history and has worked it. Especially what is going to happen in the next few years.


I wouldn't watch a 1 hour + video, but what the heck I finally did , and I admit it had a lot of interesting points.

Just to point one: He said the Russians would not expand in Ukraine but rather WRECK it to ensure it would always remain a buffer state between Russia and Nato with no hope of ever becoming an EU country either. Here's the exact time frame in the video.

https://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4?t=1395
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:00 pm

...i shall watch it too.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:42 pm

What is even more interesting is the idea that sooner or later there will be a bust up in the East. What the West needs is a compromise in Ukraine to keep Russia happy so when the bust up in the east happens Russia wouls side with the west.

Instead they are encouraging and Arming Ukraine to fight on so they can increase the sanctions to destroy Russia's economic power and ignoring the bust up that is about to happen in the east.

Of course the real economic damage being done is in Ukraine which will nto be good for man nor beast by the time this is over. In anycase a country with resources cannot be destoryed. Sooner or later they will take off where they left off before the war.
And in fact as the old Proff. said, it may even happen in a matter of a couple of years. Taiwan and the resources in the ocean,boy are the chinese heading for some picinc.

Talking of picnics. This should lighten the conversation a bit.





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But when it kicks off in the east and Russia sides with Chine, boy are they in for a surprise.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:49 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:30 pm

Lordo wrote:What is even more interesting is the idea that sooner or later there will be a bust up in the East. What the West needs is a compromise in Ukraine to keep Russia happy so when the bust up in the east happens Russia wouls side with the west.

Instead they are encouraging and Arming Ukraine to fight on so they can increase the sanctions to destroy Russia's economic power and ignoring the bust up that is about to happen in the east.

Of course the real economic damage being done is in Ukraine which will nto be good for man nor beast by the time this is over. In anycase a country with resources cannot be destoryed. Sooner or later they will take off where they left off before the war.
And in fact as the old Proff. said, it may even happen in a matter of a couple of years. Taiwan and the resources in the ocean,boy are the chinese heading for some picinc.

Talking of picnics. This should lighten the conversation a bit.

But when it kicks off in the east and Russia sides with Chine, boy are they in for a surprise.


Yeah that was impressive too. He predicts there will be something with China within 10-15 years but could possibly also happen any time even this year. Japan is trembling in fear as they have doubts about article 5 :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:10 pm

...this man makes the assumption that the people themselves do not count in these power games their Leaders play.

It is the same mistake we make when speaking International Politics, in such a construct of "Us" and "Them", the "We" we are is ignored.

Despite the expansionism the EU, NATO, and Russia practice, the consequence has been Russian leadership demonstrating its brutality, and its adversary(ies) as a result, for the brutalised, become the better choice.

Indeed there are "Ukrainians" and there are "Russians" too, this is the point he is missing; picking "sides" does nothing to end the Problem.

...he speaks of the Munroe doctrine, and in that sense he speaks of a balance in international politics; but he does not suggest anything to stop the cycle of violence, from this evolution of people's wants and needs.

He does suggest a neutral Ukraine and a plan for its rehabilitation, and he demonstrates how such a policy would mitigate the threat of Russia being driven into the CCP's sphere of influence; Asia should not be ignored.

...indeed the Problem we were blind to in Cyprus, letting it grow, will tear Ukraine into pieces too; he alludes to this in answering a question.

...indeed, America (as NATO) has played a big part in the deaths we see as a consequence of the Bucharest Conference's final declaration; he makes that clear (fighting "Ukrainians" as much as "Russians", i note, is not).

...he speaks of Merkel, and "conventional wisdom", a Media which parrots their support for this thinking and Obama's choices,

...his final answer of the question period speaks of "Ukrainians", not as a threat to all of us, but how Russians perceive them, and how "Russians" would react.

...it is an interesting perspective, coming from America; he admits he represents a minority, and while that may be so it is still worth watching.

...i ask, should Russia join NATO? (seriously)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:40 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...this man makes the assumption that the people themselves do not count in these power games their Leaders play.

It is the same mistake we make when speaking International Politics, in such a construct of "Us" and "Them", the "We" we are is ignored.

Despite the expansionism the EU, NATO, and Russia practice, the consequence has been Russian leadership demonstrating its brutality, and its adversary(ies) as a result, for the brutalised, become the better choice.

Indeed there are "Ukrainians" and there are "Russians" too, this is the point he is missing; picking "sides" does nothing to end the Problem.

...he speaks of the Munroe doctrine, and in that sense he speaks of a balance in international politics; but he does not suggest anything to stop the cycle of violence, from this evolution of people's wants and needs.

He does suggest a neutral Ukraine and a plan for its rehabilitation, and he demonstrates how such a policy would mitigate the threat of Russia being driven into the CCP's sphere of influence; Asia should not be ignored.

...indeed the Problem we were blind to in Cyprus, letting it grow, will tear Ukraine into pieces too; he alludes to this in answering a question.

...indeed, America (as NATO) has played a big part in the deaths we see as a consequence of the Bucharest Conference's final declaration; he makes that clear (fighting "Ukrainians" as much as "Russians", i note, is not).

...he speaks of Merkel, and "conventional wisdom", a Media which parrots their support for this thinking and Obama's choices,

...his final answer of the question period speaks of "Ukrainians", not as a threat to all of us, but how Russians perceive them, and how "Russians" would react.

...it is an interesting perspective, coming from America; he admits he represents a minority, and while that may be so it is still worth watching.

...i ask, should Russia join NATO? (seriously)


Well it proved that people did not count in these power games, so the assumption was correct.
The "we" vs "them" started from 2014, and there's no chance after this war to ever become a WE.
Lastly, I can't consider your last question seriously....
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