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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:We have witnessed the most irresponsible reactions by the US, the UK and the EU, in dealing with this otherwise very simple “intra-USSR” matter, when nobody should ever underestimate Russian resolve!

Let me remind the immature fools once again...

Russia is a NUCLEAR TRIAD with stockpiles in the range of 6k-7k warheads that can be launched in a dozen ways and of global outreach.

So make NO MISTAKE what you are dealing with… if you are one of those fools who think that such a power can be “diminished” via a ganged up effort of isolation and other childish antics.

If you annoy such a power enough it can and may well turn against the entire planet, and then its goodnight!

So the sooner everyone finds his brain and turns it on, the sooner this debacle will end and we can all get on with life and put it behind us.


And Russia will be punished and deserve nothing less.

It’s now a Pariah State to say the least and won’t be able to trade or participate in international markets.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:23 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Is that all you got! Their agriculture alone is enough to feed 600 million people.

Go plant some Kolokasi!

That's all there is... WHEAT, and Russia exports even more.


No not just wheat but also barley and a myriad of other stuff.

Not to mention coal, uranium, Oil and Gas as well.

READ THE FUCKING WIKI ARTICLE AND QUIT MAKING SHIT UP AS YOU GO ALONG, YOU SHIT-BRAINED KOALA!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:25 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:No its a geniune questioned asked to Paphitis,

if you cant answer it, then leave it.

he is talking about fighting and defending smaller states against agression from bigger states.

Its very principled stance and I agree with his sentiments

So why arent we going to defend Ukraine? we went and liberated many arabs in the middle east from dictators.

But this is happening in the heart of Europe, from Russian expansionism.


I’m sorry but I’m not getting you neither.

Which Arab State are you referring to? They are not under any occupation to my knowledge and most of them are all pretty good US allies as well.

Liberate who and from who?

Oh I see. From dictators you said. It’s not our role to meddle in their affairs whether they have a dictator or not. Some of these states are riled by a Royal Family, and some of them are so advance these days, that in my opinion they are as good as any Scandinavian country or Switzerland. One of my favourite countries is the UAE. I can assure you that it is better to live in UAE than it is to live in Cyprus.


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I am not getting you either,

Do you want to conveniently pretend that the west doesnt go around invading countries and toppling dictators?

Like Saddam, the Taliban, Gaddafi and ahem, Assad, to name just a few. If I recall correctly, they were all bad people in your book and you supported those wars.

I am just interested in your opinion after the speech you gave me about fighting and how my thinking is dangerous.

So why has the west left the Ukrainians to fight Russian by themselves? Is it because they are not Arabs that dont need saving from dictators?


Pretend? I know so.

The US does not invade or occupy other countries.

Sad dam is different. They invaded Kuwait. And he paid for it.

Afghanistan was to topple the Taliban who harboured Al Qaeda, responsible for the 9/11 attacks on US soil.

Both were reactive. Not arbitrary and not for no good reason.

And still, the US still respects their sovereignty in accordance with international law.

And no, it’s not our position to meddle into the affairs of Arab States. Their dictatorships are a matter for them, not ours. And many Arab States are doing just fine in terms of how they run their countries.

Sone of them actually exceed European standards as far as I’m concerned.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:27 pm

You are a joker....
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:30 pm

Maximus wrote:You are a joker....


No I’m not. You mention Arab states which as far as I’m concerned are wonderful little dynamic countries ruled under a Royal family which has harmed no one - apart from the Saudis.

But I can rattle off at least a dozen African states that actually have a pariah but it’s still none of our business.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:36 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:You are a joker....


No I’m not. You mention Arab states which as far as I’m concerned are wonderful little dynamic countries ruled under a Royal family which has harmed no one - apart from the Saudis.

But I can rattle off at least a dozen African states that actually have a pariah but it’s still none of our business.


You are just being stupid now. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:38 pm

Here’s another “little” fun-fact for all those who seemingly know nothing about the Ukraine…

Population : 41.16 million

Jewish Community : 200,000 (thousand)

President : Zelenskyy (Jewish)

Described As : “Ukraine remains among the poorest in Europe and most severely corrupt countries in the continent.

Are you all starting to wake up now?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:39 pm

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Londonrake wrote:Wow. So many nuclear weapon experts.

"Within 5 seconds". Wow - again! You obviously had to be there to say that. Respect.

About 160,000 Russian soldiers, complete with overwhelming armour, artillery, infantry and air support have invaded a neighbouring country, where, as we "speak" they are laying waste to the capital, Kiev. That, apparently, is all Ukraine and the West's fault. Serves them right then I guess.


Yeh. He obviously thinks it’s that easy to kill some bunkered down soldiers from a ship. Scratching my head as to how myself.

The only way to get them is to really land their own soldiers.

All we know is they were all eventually killed in battle.

I bet though, the Russians lost many more of their own. Like double or triple the amount.

But of course, till now Russia hasn’t lost any soldiers. They must be made of iron.


Yeah right. The only way to get them is to really land your own soldiers. That much you know that much you tell. Do you have any idea of the size of this island? Hint:The buildings are exactly 350m apart?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:41 pm

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Lordo wrote:So what happened to the idea of having Nuclear weapons so it can deter war. Both Russia and America have Nuclear weapons and yet there is no deterence. What a waste of time spending billions a year on them. Just think how much more could be done for the people if that money was put to good use.

Having heard our glorious BoZo give his address Ukraine will be fine because he is behind them and he is praying for them. So they must have god on their side too.


Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons. It gave them up to Russia in return for guarantees over its territorial integrity and sovereignty. This was even supported by the USA that they give up their nuclear arsenal in return for guarantees from the US.

What a mistake that turned out to be.

They should have kept them.


Nuclear bombs don't last for ever you know, and the Ukranians didn't have either the expertise or the resources to maintain them, neither did they have operational control over them. The ability to detonate and use them was ALWAYS with Russia.


Bulkshit they didn’t have the expertise.

They had hundreds of scientists working on the USSRs nuclear industry if not thousands.

And those nuclear weapons are still in Russia’s arsenal.

If there was ever a country that had all the infrastructure and expertise at the time, it was Ukraine. They decided to abandon the weapons for peace and stability and just not be provocative, and they did it for promises of security from Russia, US and UK.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:So what happened to the idea of having Nuclear weapons so it can deter war. Both Russia and America have Nuclear weapons and yet there is no deterence. What a waste of time spending billions a year on them. Just think how much more could be done for the people if that money was put to good use.

Having heard our glorious BoZo give his address Ukraine will be fine because he is behind them and he is praying for them. So they must have god on their side too.


Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons. It gave them up to Russia in return for guarantees over its territorial integrity and sovereignty. This was even supported by the USA that they give up their nuclear arsenal in return for guarantees from the US.

What a mistake that turned out to be.

They should have kept them.


Nuclear bombs don't last for ever you know, and the Ukranians didn't have either the expertise or the resources to maintain them, neither did they have operational control over them. The ability to detonate and use them was ALWAYS with Russia.


Bulkshit they didn’t have the expertise.

They had hundreds of scientists working on the USSRs nuclear industry if not thousands.

And those nuclear weapons are still in Russia’s arsenal.

If there was ever a country that had all the infrastructure and expertise at the time, it was Ukraine. They decided to abandon the weapons for peace and stability and just not be provocative, and they did it for promises of security from Russia, US and UK.


They fckd them over then didnt they?
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