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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:33 pm

This may not relate directly to Ukraine but it is still relevant. Because the Ukraine war is not a war between Russia and Ukraine isa war between Russia and the USA, with Ukraine paying the price in destruction and human lives loss via this idiot Zelensky.
United States involvement in regime change.
Just a short list of this tactic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... ime_change

However the most usual method is just buying votes as they did recently with Imran Khan in Pakistan.
It's been quite easy actually, they only needed a few million to buy some votes in Pakistan to turn the vote of no confidence to just a bit more than 50%.
Here's what Imran Khan was just a month ago



And what he is today:




And don't forget.
This is exactly what happened in Greece when Tsipras got ousted a few years ago.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:31 pm

How dare you claim that the west is nothing short of a fantastic democracy. The old man will have you like a kosher pork kebab before you can blink. With or without chilli
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:35 pm

Some 1,000 Ukraine marines surrender in Mariupol, says Russia
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-04-12/

I'm pleased to inform that General Paphitis managed to escape the mayhem in the nick of time on his US-issued tricycle.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:17 pm

Good videos of prisoners here...

White flag from 2,000 Ukrainians: British mercenaries in Russian jails
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ek ... x_tr_hl=en

Ukraine's Fate Is Now in Russia's Hands
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/ukraines-f ... ias-hands/

About 1200 Ukrainian marines surrendered en masse in Mariupol
https://avia-pro.net/news/okolo-1200-uk ... -mariupole

Tactical missile systems spotted near Finnish border
https://avia-pro.net/news/u-granicy-s-f ... -kompleksy

China and Russia increased trade by almost a third
https://en.news-front.info/2022/04/13/c ... t-a-third/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:33 pm

A very nice Windows background image for DT and Paphitis, and anyone else who supports Ukrainian neo-Nazi scum and enjoys blowing criminal American cock...

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:You gotta love those Russian ground forces!

A mere 200,000 in number have overrun a country defended by one million plus Nazi-fanatics armed to the teeth, with countless arms & ammo replenishments arriving daily from like three dozen countries!

That’s one for the history books, a true story of tenacity and valor and one that military colleges the world around will no doubt be studying and talking about Russian tactics in the Ukraine for a very long time!

Kudos to the Russian fighting spirit! 8)


Sorry to interrupt this - what's become - mutual admiration back-patting thread but:

Are we talking about the same war here? Cos if so, whilst I admire your tenacity and fanatical dedication to the cause, you must be having a larf.

Back here on Earth:

Standing military personnel: Russia - 900,000. Ukraine - 200,000.

Attack aircraft: Russia - 1328. Ukraine - 146.

Helicopters: Russia - 478. Ukraine - 42.

Armour (MBTs and APCs): Russia - 31,000. Ukraine - 5000.

Black Sea deployable ships: Russia - 605 (70 subs). Ukraine - 38 (no subs).

We're about to hit 2 months into this invasion. Sorry, "special military operation" and - have I got this right? - all continues to go exactly in accordance with Putin's (blessings be upon his name) chess-master plan? Or, have things perhaps turned out to be a teeny bit more difficult than anticipated?

The Russian Army's performance has been lamentable and I imagine very reassuring to any interested parties observing. Claims of their losses are a variable feast of course but the more sober, non-conflict related, agencies (the spin in here makes you dizzy at times) are saying that they've lost a significant percentage of their armoured assets and an eye-watering number of personnel. That, from what should have been a week's walk-over. Mostly it seems due to poor leadership and logistical ineptness. The Finns and Swedes must be quaking in their boots at the very idea of even thinking of joining NATO. The law of unintended consequences?

Don't let me stop you praising the glorious Russian army though (as if). They're certainly chalking up quite a body and displaced civilians/refugee count. Please................................ admire away.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:02 pm

Londonrake wrote:Standing military personnel: Russia - 900,000. Ukraine - 200,000.

Attack aircraft: Russia - 1328. Ukraine - 146.

Helicopters: Russia - 478. Ukraine - 42.

Armour (MBTs and APCs): Russia - 31,000. Ukraine - 5000.

Black Sea deployable ships: Russia - 605 (70 subs). Ukraine - 38 (no subs).

All the above numbers are trash. ie: Personnel is actually 3 million but that doesn’t mean they were all sent to the Ukraine, so it doesn't count.

Londonrake wrote:We're about to hit 2 months into this invasion. Sorry, "special military operation" and - have I got this right? - all continues to go exactly in accordance with Putin's (blessings be upon his name) chess-master plan? Or, have things perhaps turned out to be a teeny bit more difficult than anticipated?

The Russian Army's performance has been lamentable and I imagine very reassuring to any interested parties observing. Claims of their losses are a variable feast of course but the more sober, non-conflict related, agencies (the spin in here makes you dizzy at times) are saying that they've lost a significant percentage of their armoured assets and an eye-watering number of personnel. That, from what should have been a week's walk-over. Mostly it seems due to poor leadership and logistical ineptness. The Finns and Swedes must be quaking in their boots at the very idea of even thinking of joining NATO. The law of unintended consequences?

Don't let me stop you praising the glorious Russian army though (as if). They're certainly chalking up quite a body and displaced civilians/refugee count. Please................................ admire away.

You don't have any military experience so your opinion can only come from the West's massive propaganda machine which is 100% TRASH! Sorry... :)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:06 pm

Russian invasion has caused the death of thousands, yet no Russian Patriarch has spoken out against this savage attack on Ukraine. Some fucking religious zealots, a bit like our very own Psychopath really. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:09 pm

miltiades wrote:Russian invasion has caused the death of thousands, yet no Russian Patriarch has spoken out against this savage attack on Ukraine. Some fucking religious zealots, a bit like our very own Psychopath really. :lol:

You can always waive your slutty mom’s BIG WHITE GILLOTA, little 5ft punk! :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Russian invasion has caused the death of thousands, yet no Russian Patriarch has spoken out against this savage attack on Ukraine. Some fucking religious zealots, a bit like our very own Psychopath really. :lol:

You can always waive your slutty mom’s BIG WHITE GILLOTA, little 5ft punk! :wink:

Go fuck your self you stupid illiterate fucking psychopath. Judt stay off little girls you fucking piece of shit.
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