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[Get Real!]

I think Russia's plan is for the west to deplete most of it's weapons in Ukraine with their donations to Zelensky. Once this is accomplished, the west will think twice in making the same should Russia invade another country on it's border with a NATO membership threat.

Well it’s a toss between the Ukraine constantly losing all the stuff they are given, and Zelensky selling it off raking billions straight into his Florida bank accounts!

So much shit disappearing so fast...

[Kikapu]

I think Russia's plan is for the west to deplete most of it's weapons in Ukraine with their donations to Zelensky. Once this is accomplished, the west will think twice in making the same should Russia invade another country on it's border with a NATO membership threat.

Well it’s a toss between the Ukraine constantly losing all the stuff they are given, and Zelensky selling it off raking billions straight into his Florida bank accounts!

So much shit disappearing so fast...

I other thing may well be that Ukraine is receiving a lot of out of date weapons which may be duds, so Zelensky is asking for more and more big weapons, especially equipment that actually work, like Russian made jets and helicopters. He is also asking for "Big weapons", like nuclear perhaps?

The west might find some of their own weapons used against them one day, the ones that might actually work if Zelensky is selling them on the black market to every Tom, Dick and Jihadist.

Perhaps Russia might sell off the west's weapons captured in Ukraine to the same customers.

[Lordo]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

[Get Real!]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

[Kikapu]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

Turkey wants to talk up the Bayraktar drones successes, true or not so to increase sales to third world countries. Who else would buy them?

[Lordo]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

The point I was making though is the tank has no defence against them. Certainly they may be destroyed when they are on the gorund but Once the air, they are not as easy to spot as planes.
Once they take off if they have 4 heat seeking missles firing them from 8 km away. The tank does not see it coming and has no defence. Imagine this in the hands of oppressed people. Even if it is shot down after taking out 4 tanks. Thats a lot of damage.

Israel will not see them coming. Perhaps now they can sit down negotiate.

Although Israel got their ass kicked by Hezbollah when they invaded Lebanon. They went to rescue two israeli soldiers and lost 100 tanks and about 2300 soldiers too. In the end they negotiated, released about 100 people held without being tried and got the remains of the two soldiers back.

Its funny how not many people objected to this and run to the aid of the Lebanon or help it arm and defend itself.

The conflict killed over six thousand people, most of whom were Lebanese, severely damaged Lebanese infrastructure, displaced 700,000-915,000 Lebanese, and 300,000-500,000 Israelis, and disrupted normal life across all of Lebanon and northern Israel. Even after the ceasefire, much of Southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to unexploded cluster bombs. As of 1 December 2006, an estimated 200,000 Lebanese remained internally displaced or refugees

During the campaign Israel's Air Force flew more than 12,000 combat missions, its Navy fired 2,500 shells, and its Army fired over 100,000 shells. Large parts of the Lebanese civilian infrastructure were destroyed, including 400 miles of roads, 73 bridges, and 31 other targets such as Beirut International Airport, ports, water and sewage treatment plants, electrical facilities, 25 fuel stations, 900 commercial structures, up to 350 schools and two hospitals, and 15,000 homes. Some 130,000 more homes were damaged.

[Get Real!]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

The point I was making though is the tank has no defence against them. Certainly they may be destroyed when they are on the gorund but Once the air, they are not as easy to spot as planes.
Once they take off if they have 4 heat seeking missles firing them from 8 km away. The tank does not see it coming and has no defence. Imagine this in the hands of oppressed people. Even if it is shot down after taking out 4 tanks. Thats a lot of damage.

Israel will not see them coming. Perhaps now they can sit down negotiate.

Although Israel got their ass kicked by Hezbollah when they invaded Lebanon. They went to rescue two israeli soldiers and lost 100 tanks and about 2300 soldiers too. In the end they negotiated, released about 100 people held without being tried and got the remains of the two soldiers back.

Its funny how not many people objected to this and run to the aid of the Lebanon or help it arm and defend itself.

The conflict killed over six thousand people, most of whom were Lebanese, severely damaged Lebanese infrastructure, displaced 700,000-915,000 Lebanese, and 300,000-500,000 Israelis, and disrupted normal life across all of Lebanon and northern Israel. Even after the ceasefire, much of Southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to unexploded cluster bombs. As of 1 December 2006, an estimated 200,000 Lebanese remained internally displaced or refugees

During the campaign Israel's Air Force flew more than 12,000 combat missions, its Navy fired 2,500 shells, and its Army fired over 100,000 shells. Large parts of the Lebanese civilian infrastructure were destroyed, including 400 miles of roads, 73 bridges, and 31 other targets such as Beirut International Airport, ports, water and sewage treatment plants, electrical facilities, 25 fuel stations, 900 commercial structures, up to 350 schools and two hospitals, and 15,000 homes. Some 130,000 more homes were damaged.

I do remember that conflict very well… I was on holiday in Santorini when it started.

There were a lot of tunnels dug up and used by Hezbollah to surprise the Israelis all over the place and yeah, Israel did end up getting a good arse kicking but not before killing some 500 kids with their indiscriminate bombings.

[Get Real!]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

Turkey wants to talk up the Bayraktar drones successes, true or not so to increase sales to third world countries. Who else would buy them?

Oh for sure, but I think they work best against less sophisticated enemies that don't have so much radar and anti-drone defenses.

[Get Real!]

Macron looks like he’s gonna be ousted… but I think all the idiots who took part in the destruction of the EU should expect the same as nobody appreciates induced poverty!

[Lordo]

Except the Bayraktar TB2 drones they got from Erdogan. It seems the time of the tank is now over.

Don't be so sure of that Lordo...

https://tass.com/russia/1435377

The point I was making though is the tank has no defence against them. Certainly they may be destroyed when they are on the gorund but Once the air, they are not as easy to spot as planes.
Once they take off if they have 4 heat seeking missles firing them from 8 km away. The tank does not see it coming and has no defence. Imagine this in the hands of oppressed people. Even if it is shot down after taking out 4 tanks. Thats a lot of damage.

Israel will not see them coming. Perhaps now they can sit down negotiate.

Although Israel got their ass kicked by Hezbollah when they invaded Lebanon. They went to rescue two israeli soldiers and lost 100 tanks and about 2300 soldiers too. In the end they negotiated, released about 100 people held without being tried and got the remains of the two soldiers back.

Its funny how not many people objected to this and run to the aid of the Lebanon or help it arm and defend itself.

The conflict killed over six thousand people, most of whom were Lebanese, severely damaged Lebanese infrastructure, displaced 700,000-915,000 Lebanese, and 300,000-500,000 Israelis, and disrupted normal life across all of Lebanon and northern Israel. Even after the ceasefire, much of Southern Lebanon remained uninhabitable due to unexploded cluster bombs. As of 1 December 2006, an estimated 200,000 Lebanese remained internally displaced or refugees

During the campaign Israel's Air Force flew more than 12,000 combat missions, its Navy fired 2,500 shells, and its Army fired over 100,000 shells. Large parts of the Lebanese civilian infrastructure were destroyed, including 400 miles of roads, 73 bridges, and 31 other targets such as Beirut International Airport, ports, water and sewage treatment plants, electrical facilities, 25 fuel stations, 900 commercial structures, up to 350 schools and two hospitals, and 15,000 homes. Some 130,000 more homes were damaged.

I do remember that conflict very well… I was on holiday in Santorini when it started.

There were a lot of tunnels dug up and used by Hezbollah to surprise the Israelis all over the place and yeah, Israel did end up getting a good arse kicking but not before killing some 500 kids with their indiscriminate bombings.

They certainly learnt their lesson from that one. They have not sent in the tanks into battle since. They hit from a distance. Not even in Gaza, they hit them from the air or tanks from a distance.