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[Maximus]

These were invasions by NATO member countries Paphitis and Britain ceded the base areas from Cyprus which is basically a NATO military base.

So what are the Ukrainians actually destroying their country for and getting indebted for, is it to join NATO? what a cause.

You signed the 1960 Treaty of Establishment Maximus.

That's not an invasion...

I didnt sign it but Cyprus was obviously invaded and occupied before then wasnt it?

Of course you didn't but why would your signature matter?

Makarios signed it.

Was it the russians that carved Cyprus up 4 ways or NATO member states?

[Paphitis]

And he is more evidence for you Max.

Pootin wanted to join NATO himslef. he didn't consider NATO a threat then did he?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... n-his-rule

[Paphitis]

These were invasions by NATO member countries Paphitis and Britain ceded the base areas from Cyprus which is basically a NATO military base.

So what are the Ukrainians actually destroying their country for and getting indebted for, is it to join NATO? what a cause.

You signed the 1960 Treaty of Establishment Maximus.

That's not an invasion...

I didnt sign it but Cyprus was obviously invaded and occupied before then wasnt it?

Of course you didn't but why would your signature matter?

Makarios signed it.

Was it the russians that carved Cyprus up 4 ways or NATO member states?

$ ways? You can't be serious Max.

NATO had no involvement in carving up anything. Turkey, a NATO member invaded Cyprus.

[Maximus]

You are dim witted.

you have the British base areas, you have the UN areas, you have the republic of Cyprus and you have the Turkish occupied areas.

All the countries involved in the CY Problem are NATO member countries.

The UK, US, Greece and Turkey. Where are the sanctions on Turkey?

[Paphitis]

These were invasions by NATO member countries Paphitis and Britain ceded the base areas from Cyprus which is basically a NATO military base.

So what are the Ukrainians actually destroying their country for and getting indebted for, is it to join NATO? what a cause.

You signed the 1960 Treaty of Establishment Maximus.

That's not an invasion...

I didnt sign it but Cyprus was obviously invaded and occupied before then wasnt it?

Of course you didn't but why would your signature matter?

Makarios signed it.

Was it the russians that carved Cyprus up 4 ways or NATO member states?

If anything Max, the Cyprus problem is a clear example that Cyprus was not ready for independence and probably should have waited a bit.

And Cyprus" stance towards NATO is an even bigger mistake. There are 2 sides here. There is no room for neutrality because the stakes here are high.

Either Cyprus:

1) joined NATO, or
2) joined the then Warsaw Pact.

Those are the choices.

To even think there was another choice is delusional and Cyprus paid a heavy price. Especially considering its right slap bang in the middle of the ME.

Cyprus should have chosen its medicine rather than bury its head in the sand.

Only Switzerland has the luxury to make alternative choices. Cyprus does not and still doesn't, whether you like it or not.

You are still an American poodle. Hence, Cyporus supports Ukraine. You are an EU member after all, and Ukraine will soon become one as well.

[Maximus]

what are you talking about. Its a deflection at best.

How can you speak of Ukraine's right to join NATO and Russian aggression but speak of the opposite regarding Cyprus's right to have enosis, or whatever else, for example.

Going by your logic, Russia is justified to take back her former soviet states. Ukraine!

You dont even see the hypocrisy in what you are saying, its hypocritical on so many levels....

[Maximus]

I find it quite astonishing that you have become such a blind Ukrainian fan boy, everyone is expected to fight for them..

But you would throw Cyprus's independence or right to self determination under the Turkish or NATO bus.

[Paphitis]

what are you talking about. Its a deflection at best.

How can you speak of Ukraine's right to join NATO and Russian aggression but speak of the opposite regarding Cyprus's right to have enosis, or whatever else, for example.

Going by your logic, Russia is justified to take back her former soviet states. Ukraine!

You dont even see the hypocrisy in what you are saying, its hypocritical on so many levels....

No it's not a deflection. This isn't a game now maximus.

The world's future is now at stake. we choose now between Nuclear annihilation or making a stand.

there is a lot more riding on the Ukraine war and it won't be the west that will start possible Nuclear Annihilation. It will be Pootin, and this is exactly what will happen if we continue to embolden him and make him belive that he can start wars at will and the west and NATO will still be fast asleep.

This is now the last line of defence from Nuclear annihilation.

A world where 250 million people will die in the first 6 hours. Thta's the hasrh reality.

Europe will be destroyed in 3 hours.

there is no room here to blink. Ukraine can't lose this war no matter how many hundreds of thousands of them may die defending it.

Ukraine is also fighting for Cyprus now. And your very existence. and the existence of your families and friends.

That's the reality Max. And this is what pootin will do. Not NATO. Or the EU.

[Paphitis]

There is only one way out. A united globe against Russia's agreesion, long term sanctions and the re-supply of Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The Russian Military must now either withdraw or meet its grizzly demise in Ukraine. Where they all die and all their equipment is gradually destroyed and their very economy disintegrates into oblivion.

Last line of defence. The next line is where NATO has no choice but to respond.

No room for Ukraine to fail.

I'm not exagerating either. This is the reality of what the world can expect. Nuclear war and destruction of Europe, and that includes cyprus. You will be uninhabitable for a 1000 years.

This is what it will come down to.

[Maximus]

Europe will destroy her member states economies,

Ukraine will be turned to rubble and become heavily indebted.

The western coalition will fight the Russians to the very last Ukrainian without directly attacking them.

In the end, the world order is going to shift and not to the US or wests favor.

We live in a hypocritical world order, as Putin would say, in an "empire of lies".

"Rules for thee and none for me".

If you dont see the lies and hypocrisy, and how the west has been invading countries for decades with a self righteous impunity, you are still plugged in to the matrix.