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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:54 pm

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Get Real! wrote:US equipment would be UTTERLY useless to us because Turkey will always have jamming and other advantages.

No point in wasting our time with such futile arrangements.

It’s by no accident that Israel has been coming and going to CY for the training of their air-force for the past decade, because we have anti-air defenses that cannot be interfered with making it a real combat for them to train under.


One more thing. If Cyprus sends Mi-35 which won't be flying anymore in less than 3 months, Cyprus can ask for Apaches and Blackhawks.

I know what I would rather have.

You’re thinking like a little child! It’s not about what’s “better” but about Turkey a NATO member, having superior warfare advantages against us; (they get SELECT variants of equipment)as if their numerical advantages in everything aren’t already enough.


But what are you going to do when all your russian equipment is useless?

I bet you that the article is propaganda. and anti US propaganda at that. I bet the US has not asked such a thing.

It's a real pity if that is the case. It would be a smart move by the Americans. cyprus has Russian equipment that the Ukrainians need. If this Cypriot equipment makes its way to Ukraine, it would be a massive help to them defending their country.

And Cyprus can get US Equipment and all the support it needs to maintain the equipment.

And, you can also buy Israeli stuff. Iron Dome is absolutely amazing. get it. Germany is even considering it. and it maybe the best Air defence system Cyprus can buy.

The HAF flies the same aircraft as the TAF and yet the HAF has always managed to hold its own and even dominate the TAF in the Aegean. And now that Greece has Rafale, and is about to get F-35s, its going to be even better.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:56 pm

Ts, ts ts you guys got it all wrong. It was just a hint, a simple question if we would send a couple of tanks to Ukraine. No mention of replacements, no nothing.
It's impossible for the Americans to deliver us anything in return other than perhaps some military wireless equipment and helmets. (non lethal weapons as they say). For us to get anything equivalent , the US congress should first lift the embargo then wait for 6 months or more. Let aside the fact that we would have to pay the difference in price.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:04 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Ts, ts ts you guys got it all wrong. It was just a hint, a simple question if we would send a couple of tanks to Ukraine. No mention of replacements, no nothing.
It's impossible for the Americans to deliver us anything in return other than perhaps some military wireless equipment and helmets. (non lethal weapons as they say). For us to get anything equivalent , the US congress should first lift the embargo then wait for 6 months or more. Let aside the fact that we would have to pay the difference in price.


Or they'll send you lethal weapons if you told them you would send over all your T-80s and Mi-35s.

You'll get a lot more than helmets - probably get some m1a1, Apaches and Blackhawks.

And, the publicity Cyprus would get globally. Cyprus would be lauded globally by America and elevated to the best thing since peanut butter icecream.

Biden would be over to the RoC in an instant kissing Niko, but he might forget nik's name. Go easy on sleepy Jo as we think he has some early onset dementia. If he comes to Cyprus, it would be his 137th official visit over the last 85 years.

But Pootin will hate you more. But who cares right?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:10 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Ts, ts ts you guys got it all wrong. It was just a hint, a simple question if we would send a couple of tanks to Ukraine. No mention of replacements, no nothing.
It's impossible for the Americans to deliver us anything in return other than perhaps some military wireless equipment and helmets. (non lethal weapons as they say). For us to get anything equivalent , the US congress should first lift the embargo then wait for 6 months or more. Let aside the fact that we would have to pay the difference in price.


Or they'll send you lethal weapons if you told them you would send over all your T-80s and Mi-35s.

You'll get a lot more than helmets - probably get some m1a1, Apaches and Blackhawks.

And, the publicity Cyprus would get globally. Cyprus would be lauded globally by America and elevated to the best thing since peanut icecream.

Biden would be over to the RoC in an instant kissing Niko, but he might forget nik's name. Go easy on sleepy Jo as we think he has some eartly onset dementia.


Wow! The fool got winded up again...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Ts, ts ts you guys got it all wrong. It was just a hint, a simple question if we would send a couple of tanks to Ukraine. No mention of replacements, no nothing.
It's impossible for the Americans to deliver us anything in return other than perhaps some military wireless equipment and helmets. (non lethal weapons as they say). For us to get anything equivalent , the US congress should first lift the embargo then wait for 6 months or more. Let aside the fact that we would have to pay the difference in price.


Or they'll send you lethal weapons if you told them you would send over all your T-80s and Mi-35s.

You'll get a lot more than helmets - probably get some m1a1, Apaches and Blackhawks.

And, the publicity Cyprus would get globally. Cyprus would be lauded globally by America and elevated to the best thing since peanut icecream.

Biden would be over to the RoC in an instant kissing Niko, but he might forget nik's name. Go easy on sleepy Jo as we think he has some eartly onset dementia.


Wow! The fool got winded up again...


No. It just doesn't make sense that the Americans will send helmets when you send tanks and helicopters.

Cyprus would just about be able to get anything it wants, and free as well. They would replace everything at the very least, but probably double it.

It costs them NOTHING. They have surpluses of all this stuff in storage.

And Cyprus would be in the headlines and applauded by almost every country.

Cyprus and Poland as well as Romania will go down in history. I actually think there is a lot to be gained here for Cyprus. Also in terms of Turkey's occupation.

Imagine what the headlines would be: "Cyprus, invaded and occupied by Turkey, sends arms to Ukraine". International media would have a field day. Cyprus will have its moment internationally.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:41 pm

It doesnt make sense to place an arms embargo on Cyprus but not on Turkey.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:04 pm

The issue started with an oral hint or proposal by the Americans a few days ago.
It was actually meant to send some of our weapons free of charge just like good kids to Ukraine.
Nothing in writing, no complete proposal, nothing at all.
It then blew out of proportion.
And here we are today arguing between ourselves.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:30 pm

One hundred units of Russian equipment spotted in Belarus travelling towards Moscow
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337017/

Russia is preparing to seize Kharkiv - Defence Ministry
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337091/

Mayor of Mariupol: Russian troops have forcibly deported between 20,000 and 30,000 civilians
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/27/7334899/

Which totally defeats the Ukraine’s allegations that Russians are murdering civilians as they are removing them out of harm’s way for YOU, seeing that you like to keep them as human shields!

Fucking disgraceful clowns!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:A column with Russian and German flags drove through the streets of Berlin.
https://t.me/sputnik/721
https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/stat ... 7822181377


When Turkey inavede Cyprus, there was a column of Turkish flags in most Australian cities as well.

But I can tell you for a fact that the general Australian consensus was not in favour of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and is still not in favour of the continued occupation.


These demonstrations either organized by Russians or Ukrainians don't mean anything other than the fact they just occur. In reality the average EU citizen was not in favor of any side before the war started.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europea ... macy-poll/
Now with western propaganda hitting the roof the public opinion must have changed, and it will change again in mid April when the Russians will cut off the gas supply. Guess what kind of massive demonstrations we will be witnessing then. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Therer is propganada everyehere but as far as propaganda goes, Russia is at the pinnacle of it.

We have NOTHING in comparison other than a pluralistic media which does publish different viewpoints which is something not allowed in Russia.


The pluralistic media you talk about are just a handful of fully tied corporations from which thousands of other regurgitate. One has to break his back to find anything really independent. In Cyprus we have 7 local TV channels which all copy from the same sources. Same with our newspapers.
So we have no other option that to look for information on Russian media that get banned from the internet on a daily basis. And you'd be lucky to find out their new web address.
For example look at what presumably happened in Bucha. The Russian media were warning days ago that the Ukrainians were instructed by the British to bring about 300 corpses in areas where the Russians were withdrawing. And that's the exact number they brought and placed them so nicely and symmetrically on the streets one every 10 meters....
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:57 pm

Headquarters of Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kharkov destroyed
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/to ... x_tr_hl=en

French Foreign Legionaires caught with their pants down in Mariupol
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/sy ... x_tr_hl=en

Orban's sweeping victory in Hungary: "Remember this day forever - We defeated Soros, Zelensky and Brussels"!
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/sa ... x_tr_hl=en

Three cheers for Orban! :)

Putin congratulates Orban on his victory - He hopes for strengthening the "partnership"
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/o- ... x_tr_hl=en
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