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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:A column with Russian and German flags drove through the streets of Berlin.
https://t.me/sputnik/721
https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/stat ... 7822181377


When Turkey inavede Cyprus, there was a column of Turkish flags in most Australian cities as well.

But I can tell you for a fact that the general Australian consensus was not in favour of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and is still not in favour of the continued occupation.


These demonstrations either organized by Russians or Ukrainians don't mean anything other than the fact they just occur. In reality the average EU citizen was not in favor of any side before the war started.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europea ... macy-poll/
Now with western propaganda hitting the roof the public opinion must have changed, and it will change again in mid April when the Russians will cut off the gas supply. Guess what kind of massive demonstrations we will be witnessing then. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:06 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


How do you know that?

Then what if the existing equipment becomes obsolete (not serviceable, no supplies or parts available) because of the sanctions on Russia.

:roll: Hello? I served in the NG for 3 fucking years and was then in the reserve till age 53!

The whole point/advantage of having Russian hardware was because NATO members couldn’t electronically interfere with it!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


You current stock of Russian equipment is literally for the scrap heap in literally months, because Russia won't be sending any parts. So once you run out, say bye bye T-80s.

Just send the shit over to Ukraine and get American replacements before its too late.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


How do you know that?

Then what if the existing equipment becomes obsolete (not serviceable, no supplies or parts available) because of the sanctions on Russia.

:roll: Hello? I served in the NG for 3 fucking years and was then in the reserve till age 53!

The whole point/advantage of having Russian hardware was because NATO members couldn’t electronically interfere with it!


I thought another point was because of the arms embargo.

At the end of the day, CY should be demanding the end of the illegal occupation by another NATO member as part of any deal.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:10 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:A column with Russian and German flags drove through the streets of Berlin.
https://t.me/sputnik/721
https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/stat ... 7822181377


When Turkey inavede Cyprus, there was a column of Turkish flags in most Australian cities as well.

But I can tell you for a fact that the general Australian consensus was not in favour of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974 and is still not in favour of the continued occupation.


These demonstrations either organized by Russians or Ukrainians don't mean anything other than the fact they just occur. In reality the average EU citizen was not in favor of any side before the war started.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europea ... macy-poll/
Now with western propaganda hitting the roof the public opinion must have changed, and it will change again in mid April when the Russians will cut off the gas supply. Guess what kind of massive demonstrations we will be witnessing then. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Therer is propganada everyehere but as far as propaganda goes, Russia is at the pinnacle of it.

We have NOTHING in comparison other than a pluralistic media which does publish different viewpoints which is something not allowed in Russia.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:10 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


You current stock of Russian equipment is literally for the scrap heap in literally months, because Russia won't be sending any parts. So once you run out, say bye bye T-80s.

Just send the shit over to Ukraine and get American replacements before its too late.

The acquisition of Russian parts can be easily arranged via 3rd non-West parties.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


You current stock of Russian equipment is literally for the scrap heap in literally months, because Russia won't be sending any parts. So once you run out, say bye bye T-80s.

Just send the shit over to Ukraine and get American replacements before its too late.

The acquisition of Russian parts can be easily arranged via 3rd non-West parties.


Not if Russia doesn't allow it.

Pretty sure they got stuff written up in their contracts. If that 3rd opart disobeys Russia, they too will be cut off.

Only Russian stuff you may get is a few Kalashnikov's from some African tinpot regime.

Australia once tried to sell Greece an Oliver Hazard Perry which the Americans blocked because they were scared of Tsipras and the Oliver Hazard perry had some whiz bang American Fire Control System installed and RIM Missiles.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:13 pm

Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


How do you know that?

Then what if the existing equipment becomes obsolete (not serviceable, no supplies or parts available) because of the sanctions on Russia.

:roll: Hello? I served in the NG for 3 fucking years and was then in the reserve till age 53!

The whole point/advantage of having Russian hardware was because NATO members couldn’t electronically interfere with it!


I thought another point was because of the arms embargo.

At the end of the day, CY should be demanding the end of the illegal occupation by another NATO member as part of any deal.

The embargo WAS lifted a couple of years ago, but the NG still made no attempts to acquire anything military from the US for good reasons.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Cyprus has a defensive plan in place that is based on what we have and what we’ve trained for, so to replace all that and draw up a new defensive plan that now has to take into consideration that the Turks would have the same equipment and most likely have electronic/digital jamming/interference advantages due to NATO status, would be total suicide for us! US equipment are worthless for us against a NATO member.


How do you know that?

Then what if the existing equipment becomes obsolete (not serviceable, no supplies or parts available) because of the sanctions on Russia.

:roll: Hello? I served in the NG for 3 fucking years and was then in the reserve till age 53!

The whole point/advantage of having Russian hardware was because NATO members couldn’t electronically interfere with it!


I thought another point was because of the arms embargo.

At the end of the day, CY should be demanding the end of the illegal occupation by another NATO member as part of any deal.

The embargo WAS lifted a couple of years ago, but the NG still made no attempts to acquire anything military from the US for good reasons.


You may have no choice now my American Ally comrades.

Pootin doesn't like you anymore.

Welcome to being a defacto NATO member by stealth baby. As if you had any say in the matter. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:19 pm

US equipment would be UTTERLY useless to us because Turkey will always have jamming and other advantages.

No point in wasting our time with such futile arrangements.

It’s by no accident that Israel has been coming and going to CY for the training of their air-force for the past decade, because we have anti-air defenses that cannot be interfered with making it a real combat for them to train under.
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