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[Get Real!]

New gas pipeline order/deal for Russia from Pakistan…

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... e-invasion

Russia is basically shifting its business from Europe to Asia so our days of cheap gas are numbered thanks to the EU’s incompetent and downright comical handling of Russia.

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of these days Russia turns off the gas completely and then all hell breaks loose in the EU… things will get very unpleasant for us!

[Lordo]

New gas pipeline order/deal for Russia from Pakistan…

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... e-invasion

Russia is basically shifting its business from Europe to Asia so our days of cheap gas are numbered thanks to the EU’s incompetent and downright comical handling of Russia.

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of these days Russia turns off the gas completely and then all hell breaks loose in the EU… things will get very unpleasant for us!

Nord Stream 1 is running perfectly fine for the EU, there is no issue except maybe that is what Ukraine threatened to close it which is why it sent Putin over the edge. The lesson here is do not threaten somebody you cannot beat.

Although it is good for Russia to expand its customer base, no doubt China will buy what is left.

[Kikapu]

New gas pipeline order/deal for Russia from Pakistan…

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... e-invasion

Russia is basically shifting its business from Europe to Asia so our days of cheap gas are numbered thanks to the EU’s incompetent and downright comical handling of Russia.

I wouldn’t be surprised if one of these days Russia turns off the gas completely and then all hell breaks loose in the EU… things will get very unpleasant for us!

Nord Stream 1 is running perfectly fine for the EU, there is no issue except maybe that is what Ukraine threatened to close it which is why it sent Putin over the edge. The lesson here is do not threaten somebody you cannot beat.

Although it is good for Russia to expand its customer base, no doubt China will buy what is left.

Eastern Mediterranean gas pipeline to the EU might now get the go ahead from the USA once again to “punish” Putin.

[Get Real!]

Russia’s multiple well-calculated global deals make a complete mockery of the EU + US sanction games rendering them useless:

“On Thursday, Chinese customs authorities announced the lifting of import restrictions on Russian wheat, which makes up more than one-quarter of the global supply.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/ ... c-lifeline

[Lordo]

If there is no alternative resource sanctioning panished user far more than the supplier. Notice al the actions USA and UK are taking does not hurt USA and only affects 15% of UK supplies and affects 100% of EU supplies. But like it has been said before, Nord Stream to is not in production and it will have no affect on the supply of gas to the EU. Especially now that Ukraine has lost control and cannot shut it off. In any case if they did shut down, it would hurt the EU far more than Russia.

[Lordo]

This is even more interesting.

The United States is alone among other industrialized Western countries in its reluctance. It did not begin to ratify major human rights treaties until the late 1980s, taking almost 40 years to become the 98th country to ratify the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. It still has not ratified many significant human rights treaties, including the Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities and the International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights—part of the International Bill of Human Rights. The United States also has not ratified the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW), one of only seven countries who hasn’t including Iran, Nauru, Palau, Somalia, Sudan and Tonga. The United States and Somalia are the only countries that have not ratified Convention on the Rights of the Child.

https://www.globaljusticecenter.net/blog/773-u-s-aversion-to-international-human-rights-treaties

[Lordo]

I noticed today LBC had live commentary between two Ukrainan nations one in London and one in Kiev talking about the attacks.

I don't remeber such action by our glorious media when Israel was bombing the hell out of Gaza.

What a wonderful world we live in.

[Get Real!]

Damn... I need to take a nap but I don’t want to miss the part when the Spetsnaz locate Zelensky holed up in a bunker and they grab him by the scruff and bring him out!

[Paphitis]

It looks like the Ukrainians are ready to talk with the Russians about keeping the countries status neutral and not seek to join NATO.

And it won't make any difference.

NATO was just the excuse. The real reason is expansionism and re-creating the former USSR.

[Paphitis]

but why is it suicide to remain neutral and refuse NATO to be stationed in Ukraine so Russia withdraws?

Some would say that it is suicide to continue on the current trajectory.

Because it’s a slap in the face against their own sovereignty and right to align themselves with whoever they wish.

Abs they also had well proven by now security concerns.

Australia has already said that they are not going to send troops.

The US aint going to send troops, the EU aint going to send troops.

Maybe you and Chuck Norris can go instead.

Australia is considering sending RAAF transports to supply arms to Ukraine.

What the logistics are I don’t know but I presume they will be going through Turkey and their might be some Aussie activity at the SBAs as well. But probably Turkey

That is what it is really about for the west

Fighting Russia to the very last Ukrainian.

Not a good idea....

It’s every citizens obligation to fight for their country. I expect nothing less from any proud country and people.

The same thing should have happened in Cyprus too. No one should have left the occupied areas and every fit person should have armed themselves.

Yes Ukrainians will die but it’s their obligation to ensure that the flow of coffins back to Russia is massive.

If the US was invaded by Cuba, I as a VISA holder have an obligation to the US as I would have an obligation to Australia.

You should never adopt a country of you are not willing to fight for them and abide by their laws and ways. End of.

Cyprus was practically defenseless back then, Cyprus really couldnt do anything against Turkey. Probably still cant.

That is where you are wrong,

Cyprus could have done a lot. The fact that everyone abandoned their villages, towns and houses was a major gimme on a platter for the Turkish Army.

If everyone had your brains, the French wouldn’t have resisted the NAZIs so valiantly. Same with the Yugoslav Partisans, the Greeks, the Poles, and so on.

Yet, despite the sheer power of the NAZIs they all resisted and caused havoc against them and contributed to their eventual defeat.

As I said, if you find your country under occupation, you have obligations and if you don’t meet with those expectations, you should leave as cowards do. At least you can say you left rather than lose your dignity.

And if you are not good enough to fight, then you offer assistance in other capacities like donate food or blood

How am I wrong, what could Cyprus have done? they barely had a weapon between 5 infantry men.

As much as I agree with your sentiments Paphitis, there is a time for fighting and there is a time for talking.

When you talk and think like shit, the costs go up substantially when it comes to the fighting.

Would you send you own son (or daughter) to do the fighting or risk your own life for the shit thinking and talking of politicians?

In as far as Ukraine is concerned, this Russian invasion was easily and still is completely avoidable to save lives and property and to preserve the peace.

You are wrong Maximus because such an attitude would be very destructive to universal principles that little states, all states, have the right to determine their own destiny either within NATO and the EU or outside of NATO and EX. And that just doesn't only apply to the EU and NATO but in everything.

You can't for example have a country like Turkey threaten a country like Cyprus because Cyprus wanted to join the EU. It is their right to join the EU.

Secondly, no parent wants to see their child killed in a war. But on the other hand, I would also be a very proud parent if I saw my child in an Australian Military uniform serving their country, or even is a US Military uniform serving the US if they become US citizens in some years time.

If I was a Ukrainian Parent, living this nightmare, I would obviously be first in line helping to defend my country, and my children will be behind me. If anyone must die, I will be first. Obviously, this doesn't make me some-kind of hero behind my keyboard. I certainly do not want to die and will take every step not to and I'll certainly take every stop so that my children don't die either. But sometimes, drastic measures are called for and the expectation is that the entire community makes massive sacrifices as a whole to help defend the country.

As you would no doubt be aware, when a country is invaded and occupied. you can potentially lose everything. Your house, property and of course the well-being of your family.