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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And the west is answering Zalensky's please for help. Not enough in my opinion but at least we are supplying arms, and inflicting immense economic damage to Russia itself.

He’s been screaming for help 24/7 for a month now, but help has pretty much run out and now he has to face the consequences of capitulation, defeat, and severe losses.

And thus ends another chapter of NATO expansion! :)

The lesson to be learned here is… next time sign the peace deal while you’ve still got your territory and infrastructure intact!


And so he should. That's his job. He was elected by the Ukrainian people to represent them internationally and get help from the west at this difficult time.

On the contrary. NATO expansion is now guaranteed and needed by all eastern European countries. The country next on the firing line is Moldova. They need to join NATO. But that's assuming Russia has stomach for more war, which it probably doesn't after its failure in Ukraine.

There is no capitulation by the Ukrainian people. That will never happen.

The Russian invaders have come to Ukraine to die, and die they will. One at a time, they might as well line up for the Coup de Grace. If they want to live, they need to surrender or leave, or they leave in body bags.

The best outcome for the Russian soldiers is for them to eturn to their families alive and healthy in Russia. There is certainly no need for them to die in a foreign land. You better hope they leave.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:38 pm

Pretty much the same shit happened in Cyprus…

They thought the “mighty” Greek military would come and take care of any Turkish intrusion, but it turned out there was no mighty Greek military just as there was no mighty NATO military to come and save the Ukraine!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:Pretty much the same shit happened in Cyprus…

They thought the “mighty” Greek military would come and take care of any Turkish intrusion, but it turned out there was no mighty Greek military just as there was no mighty NATO military to come and save the Ukraine!


Ukraine is not a NATO member. neither is Cyprus.

NATO has no obligation to send troops in direct conflict with Russia over a non NATO member.

If Russia attacked a NATO member, then it's a different story.

As for Greece coming to your aid, what in all seriousness what could Greece do when the CNG virtually capitulated. first, you need to fight for yourself and do the heavy lifting. When other countries see you do that, they will be willing to help. Cyprus mistake was to stop fighting. Cyprus should have kept fighting even till the Turkish Tanks reach paphos and the entire Cypriot population is consumed under Turkish occupation. That's when things start get interesting.

Ukraine is doing the heavy lifting. they don't look like they are going to give up. On the contrary, they are having a real good go, and are inflicting great losses on the Russians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:44 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Pretty much the same shit happened in Cyprus…

They thought the “mighty” Greek military would come and take care of any Turkish intrusion, but it turned out there was no mighty Greek military just as there was no mighty NATO military to come and save the Ukraine!


Ukraine is not a NATO member. neither is Cyprus.

NATO has no obligation to send troops in direct conflict with Russia over a non NATO member.

Tell that to Zelensky who miscalculated and now “governs” a partitioned Ukraine that is lying in ruins, while in exile! :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:46 pm

Have patience Paphitis.
As soon as this happens the war will be over in a few days.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Pretty much the same shit happened in Cyprus…

They thought the “mighty” Greek military would come and take care of any Turkish intrusion, but it turned out there was no mighty Greek military just as there was no mighty NATO military to come and save the Ukraine!


Ukraine is not a NATO member. neither is Cyprus.

NATO has no obligation to send troops in direct conflict with Russia over a non NATO member.

Tell that to Zelensky who miscalculated and now “governs” a partitioned Ukraine that is lying in ruins, while in exile! :lol:


There is no partitioned Ukraine.

Days ago, you were talking about decapitation. Now you are talking about partition of the Donbass region. The Ukraine military will enter the Donbass as well, in time.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:50 pm

Zelensky’s latest plea to the West, while in tears...

“For the love of God, has anyone invented a time machine I can borrow that can go back by two months?”

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:51 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Have patience Paphitis.
As soon as this happens the war will be over in a few days.
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Stop dreaming!

Russia hasn't been able to take a single city and now are losing towns as they they are pushed out.

You expect me to believe they can conquer this region and control it with a measly 60,000 soldiers? They would be lucky to control the McDonalds Drive Through.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:52 pm

Get Real! wrote:Zelensky’s latest plea to the West, while in tears...

“For the love of God, has anyone invented a time machine I can borrow that can go back by two months?”

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Zalensky is loving this make no mistake. Because eventually when he wins this war, he will be in the EU and a defacto NATO member, just like Finland, Australia and others.

I mean he is demanding a US Guarantee. Might as well join NATO.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:03 pm

Many people are saying he has already won the war.

And yeh, you definately can say that but his victory is still an incomplete one. it's going to get much worse for Russia as their soldiers will to fight wanes even further, and as they run into more logistical trouble with sprerading their forces too thin and unable to supply them with ammunition, fuel and food.
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