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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:06 am

U.S. cancels ICBM test due to Russia nuclear tensions
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-04-01/

America seems to foolishly assume that for as long as they keep avoiding and/or deescalating anything nuclear, they can continue pushing Russia in every other direction!

This seems to be based on a misinterpretation of what Putin stated with respect to the usage of nukes, when he recently made it very clear to those who understand with a…

“Russia would use nukes if it suspects existential threat”

But what exactly is an “existential threat” to a nation other than the obvious direct nuclear attack, which is what the narrow minded and irresponsible Americans seem to be counting on?

To answer that question we would need to look at what exactly determines a country’s “existence”.

Well for a nation to exist first and foremost it needs to have a functional economy that can trade, earn a profit, pay off its bills, and look forward to a prosperous future that can provide a living for its many citizens, for without income-earning citizens paying taxes there cannot be any State funds to support the nation!

So as obvious as all this may sound to healthy minded individuals, this simple concept seems to be going over the head of the foolhardy and irresponsible US.

So if you manage to take all that away from a nation, you will then have created an existential threat to that nation, make no mistake about it… so it’s not only about launching a nuclear strike against it!

It’s therefore very reasonable to conclude that should the West’s “economic war”; read GENOCIDE which is the more befitting word to use as the West’s campaign and actions encompass a ruthless multi-pronged destruction of Russia and not just an economic one, succeed then the West will have more than raised the existential threat red flag that Putin seriously warned about!

There’s no question that Russia would use every means available to them to destroy that which is an existential threat to Russia for Putin himself more importantly also stated that…

“A world without Russia is a world not worth having!”

...thus putting the red cherry on the cake, in a powerful nationalist statement that cannot possibly be any clearer!

So far Russia is doing extremely well under the circumstances, but should the tide turn at some stage into the future and Putin connects the dots all the way to America… there should be no misunderstanding over what follows next.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:05 am

...there is always this undercurrent, "Ukrainians"; underestimating "them" leading wars like these: where hatred itself may be ( read:is) institutionalised.



...most disturbing.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:48 am

Putin is not Russia GR. He is a man with great ambitions who may have played the risks he has, badly this time.

Just like Erdogan and Xi, he has isolated himself.

...when Putin is gone he laments "the world without Russia"; but it seems more likely that the world is tired of him, and "Them".

His and their credibility is ruined from their outright lies. And even in their own society, the fear that they willfully express through all forms of violence against an "other" (read: not "Them") to wield their power.

...maybe he is not one of "Them" GR, i grant you that, but don't kid yourself, he is a wannabe, he is not one of 'us'.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:14 am

It is no coincidence that Patriarch Ilias of Georgia, on the morning of February 24, was the first Primate of the Orthodox Church to call for the cessation of hostilities in Ukraine, “otherwise they will develop into a world tragedy”.

Several Bishops and Metropolitans of the Georgian Church followed, condemning the invasion of the Ukrainian territory by the Russian army, recalling that “20% of our country is occupied by Russia”.


https://orthodoxtimes.com/the-church-of ... f-ukraine/

Moreover, according to a report by wenews.ge, 13 Hierarchs of the Georgian Church have spoken so far in favor of the recognition of the Church of Ukraine of Metropolitan Epifaniy, after the granting of the Tomos, in early 2019.


...even Putin's Church must face the fact that in their world of Orthodoxy, seeking supremacy they prove to be disruptive, and in that sense corrupt.

...indeed, we are all "occupied", by the "Them" who tear us (the rest of us) apart, i won't forget that. And it is this occupation which must end; above the Person, we exist as Individuals: Freedom like Liberty demands this respect recognition and trust.

"Lest we Forget": let's remember that there are bigger enemies to fight than each other like Hunger Disease and Ignorance (i.e. like Climate Change ending Pollution as well as Waste).
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:24 am

Get Real! wrote:U.S. cancels ICBM test due to Russia nuclear tensions
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 022-04-01/

America seems to foolishly assume that for as long as they keep avoiding and/or deescalating anything nuclear, they can continue pushing Russia in every other direction!

This seems to be based on a misinterpretation of what Putin stated with respect to the usage of nukes, when he recently made it very clear to those who understand with a…

“Russia would use nukes if it suspects existential threat”

But what exactly is an “existential threat” to a nation other than the obvious direct nuclear attack, which is what the narrow minded and irresponsible Americans seem to be counting on?

To answer that question we would need to look at what exactly determines a country’s “existence”.

Well for a nation to exist first and foremost it needs to have a functional economy that can trade, earn a profit, pay off its bills, and look forward to a prosperous future that can provide a living for its many citizens, for without income-earning citizens paying taxes there cannot be any State funds to support the nation!

So as obvious as all this may sound to healthy minded individuals, this simple concept seems to be going over the head of the foolhardy and irresponsible US.

So if you manage to take all that away from a nation, you will then have created an existential threat to that nation, make no mistake about it… so it’s not only about launching a nuclear strike against it!

It’s therefore very reasonable to conclude that should the West’s “economic war”; read GENOCIDE which is the more befitting word to use as the West’s campaign and actions encompass a ruthless multi-pronged destruction of Russia and not just an economic one, succeed then the West will have more than raised the existential threat red flag that Putin seriously warned about!

There’s no question that Russia would use every means available to them to destroy that which is an existential threat to Russia for Putin himself more importantly also stated that…

“A world without Russia is a world not worth having!”

...thus putting the red cherry on the cake, in a powerful nationalist statement that cannot possibly be any clearer!

So far Russia is doing extremely well under the circumstances, but should the tide turn at some stage into the future and Putin connects the dots all the way to America… there should be no misunderstanding over what follows next.


You see, that's where you are misguided!

The US and NATO have tried deescalation in all its forms, and even wanted Russia to join NATO. There is no better way than to say to Russia that Russia is NOT NATO's enemy than to have them join NATO and have them be an ally. That is what America wanted and still wants to this day.

Unfortunately, Pootin has other ideas that would like to take Russia back behind the iron curtain, and escalate tensions with NATO which only has one objective - that is to defend member nations territorial integrity against foreign aggression. Pootin has in fact re-invigorated NATO and ensure that Russia will remain NATO's biggest threat in Europe.

But Pootin needs to be a superpower to threaten another superpower and a superpower it no longer is. It can't even beat Ukraine, let alone NATO.

The US will never posture with its ICBMs, nor would it conduct a nuclear test in this day and age. By ICBM test, you mean a missile launch without the warhead. The US does not need to posture. The world knows it has 3000 warheads, and will only use them as a last resort and only as the last line of defence, but mostly they serve as a deterrent, not as an actual tool to destroy Russia or anyone else.

You are a very sad person to be talking about these weapons. and you call me SATAN. These weapons are not something to gloat over. If there are people like you and Pootin, it will only guarantee the destruction of our planet. Very foolish.

The US is a western country that is far more evolved than you think, and would love to keep its nuclear arsenal very much in the shadows and not actually highlighted as a viable option which could spark catastrophe for the planet. The US has far better weapons than its nuclear arsenal, which would destroy Russia in their own right if necessary.

Some of these weapons are entering Ukrainian Airspace this week when a RAAF Globemaster is escorted by F-35 or EA-18G/F-18F aircraft. Russia has nothing that is no par with this level of technology or stealth characteristics.

These planes might be using Akrotiri as well, or Souda Bay, if not Turkey. So keep your eyes peeled boys and girls because I want photos. :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:41 am

Paphitis wrote:You are a very sad person to be talking about these weapons. and you call me SATAN.

I never called you Satan… for starters you’re not smart enough to be Satan, in fact not even smart enough to be considered a smart human let alone Satan!

What I did imply is that you are POSSESSED or taken over, by Satan.

They are two different things so don’t let it get to your Satanic head.

As for the rest of your post it is TOTAL TRASH packed with manufactured LIES as always.

Unashamedly making shit up as you go along ever since I can remember you… is the overwhelming evidence of your satanic possession!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:48 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:You are a very sad person to be talking about these weapons. and you call me SATAN.

I never called you Satan… for starters you’re not smart enough to be Satan, in fact not even smart enough to be considered a smart human let alone Satan!

What I did imply is that you are POSSESSED or taken over, by Satan.

They are two different things so don’t let it get to your Satanic head.

As for the rest of your post it is TOTAL TRASH packed with manufactured LIES as always.

Unashamedly making shit up as you go along ever since I can remember you… is the overwhelming evidence of your satanic possession!


And this is comming from a Pootin apologist. An invader of Ukraine, and someone who unashamedly pounded Ukrainian cities.

The US has never acted with such malicious intent. Not even Desert Storm came close because the Americans even then made every effort to avoid civilian targets as much as practicable.

We know who is possessed and it isn't me.

I support the territorial integrity of Ukraine like I support the territorial integrity of Cyprus, Taiwan, Iraq and even Afghanistan.

I'm consistent, while you are not. You are a bandwagoner. America's enemy is your friend. You would support Hitler against America and you have the audacity to post about the very small Asov Battalion which use nazi symbols. This Asov batallion has not invaded anyone or hurt another country. They remain inside Ukraine, fighting for the defence of Ukraine and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:02 am

You are a PROLIFIC LIAR; post after post, who cannot help himself but serve LIE after LIE because you are FULLY possessed by Satan, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it without outside help.

Unashamed chronic prolific liar = Possessed by Satan
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:12 am

Get Real! wrote:You are a PROLIFIC LIAR; post after post, who cannot help himself but serve LIE after LIE because you are FULLY possessed by Satan, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it without outside help.

Unashamed chronic prolific liar = Possessed by Satan


I’m the liar am I?

Even if you were in Baghdad, immediately after the Coslition shock and awe, you would see a city with the bulk of its infrastructure intact because the Americans made an effort to hit only Government buildings, military, and communications sites.

When you see Ukrainian cities you would see images of Grozny and Alleppo.

That’s because Pootin is a war criminal. You are a supporter of these crimes.
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