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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:59 am

Captain Blackadder:

You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war two great super-armies developed. Us, the Russians and the French on one side, Germany and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea being that each army would act as the other's deterrent. That way, there could never be a war.

Private Baldrick:

Except, this is sort of a war, isn't it?

Captain Blackadder:

That's right. There was one tiny flaw in the plan.

Lieutenant George:

O, what was that?

Captain Blackadder:

It was bollocks.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:30 am

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:but why is it suicide to remain neutral and refuse NATO to be stationed in Ukraine so Russia withdraws?

Some would say that it is suicide to continue on the current trajectory.


Because it’s a slap in the face against their own sovereignty and right to align themselves with whoever they wish.

Abs they also had well proven by now security concerns.


Australia has already said that they are not going to send troops.

The US aint going to send troops, the EU aint going to send troops.

Maybe you and Chuck Norris can go instead.


Australia is considering sending RAAF transports to supply arms to Ukraine.

What the logistics are I don’t know but I presume they will be going through Turkey and their might be some Aussie activity at the SBAs as well. But probably Turkey


That is what it is really about for the west

Fighting Russia to the very last Ukrainian.

Not a good idea....


It’s every citizens obligation to fight for their country. I expect nothing less from any proud country and people.

The same thing should have happened in Cyprus too. No one should have left the occupied areas and every fit person should have armed themselves.

Yes Ukrainians will die but it’s their obligation to ensure that the flow of coffins back to Russia is massive.

If the US was invaded by Cuba, I as a VISA holder have an obligation to the US as I would have an obligation to Australia.

You should never adopt a country of you are not willing to fight for them and abide by their laws and ways. End of.


Cyprus was practically defenseless back then, Cyprus really couldnt do anything against Turkey. Probably still cant. :roll:


That is where you are wrong,

Cyprus could have done a lot. The fact that everyone abandoned their villages, towns and houses was a major gimme on a platter for the Turkish Army.

If everyone had your brains, the French wouldn’t have resisted the NAZIs so valiantly. Same with the Yugoslav Partisans, the Greeks, the Poles, and so on.

Yet, despite the sheer power of the NAZIs they all resisted and caused havoc against them and contributed to their eventual defeat.

As I said, if you find your country under occupation, you have obligations and if you don’t meet with those expectations, you should leave as cowards do. At least you can say you left rather than lose your dignity.

And if you are not good enough to fight, then you offer assistance in other capacities like donate food or blood


How am I wrong, what could Cyprus have done? they barely had a weapon between 5 infantry men.

As much as I agree with your sentiments Paphitis, there is a time for fighting and there is a time for talking.

When you talk and think like shit, the costs go up substantially when it comes to the fighting.

Would you send you own son (or daughter) to do the fighting or risk your own life for the shit thinking and talking of politicians?

In as far as Ukraine is concerned, this Russian invasion was easily and still is completely avoidable to save lives and property and to preserve the peace.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:40 am

Today's announcement from the Ukraine's Defense Force has just tweeted again, calling for all civilians to join regardless of their age...

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Which translates to...

"Official statement of the Commander of the Tro Forces Yuriy Galushkin:

Today, Ukraine needs everyone. All procedures for joining the TR are simplified. You only have a passport and identification code with you. There are no age restrictions.

If you have any problems on the ground, refer to this official statement."


Only it's a war crime to arm and conscript children under 18, to fight your wars!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:51 am

Get Real! wrote:Today's announcement from the Ukraine's Defense Force has just tweeted again, calling for all civilians to join regardless of their age...

warcrime.PNG


Which translates to...

"Official statement of the Commander of the Tro Forces Yuriy Galushkin:

Today, Ukraine needs everyone. All procedures for joining the TR are simplified. You only have a passport and identification code with you. There are no age restrictions.

If you have any problems on the ground, refer to this official statement."


Only it's a war crime to arm and conscript children under 18, to fight your wars!

Is that not exactly what the Nazis did in WW2. The adminstration's are nazi sympathisers which explains it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:56 am

This is a Maximoboullari quote

How am I wrong, what could Cyprus have done? they barely had a weapon between 5 infantry men.

As much as I agree with your sentiments Paphitis, there is a time for fighting and there is a time for talking.

When you talk and think like shit, the costs go up substantially when it comes to the fighting.

Would you send you own son (or daughter) to do the fighting or risk your own life for the shit thinking and talking of politicians?

In as far as Ukraine is concerned, this Russian invasion was easily and still is completely avoidable to save lives and property and to preserve the peace.


What an asshole. He actually supported the coup and overthrowing the elected President and is more concerned about stopping the Turks landing so his Nazi fanatics could kill all the TCs.

You don't need to go to square one boy, you need a new fuckin brain.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:56 am

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Today's announcement from the Ukraine's Defense Force has just tweeted again, calling for all civilians to join regardless of their age...

warcrime.PNG


Which translates to...

"Official statement of the Commander of the Tro Forces Yuriy Galushkin:

Today, Ukraine needs everyone. All procedures for joining the TR are simplified. You only have a passport and identification code with you. There are no age restrictions.

If you have any problems on the ground, refer to this official statement."


Only it's a war crime to arm and conscript children under 18, to fight your wars!

Is that not exactly what the Nazis did in WW2. The adminstration's are nazi sympathisers which explains it.

His professional soldiers have failed and now Zelenskyy the coward is calling for men, women and children to come and fight for his sorry arse instead of signing the peace deal!

I hope Putin drags him into a war crimes tribunal.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Today's announcement from the Ukraine's Defense Force has just tweeted again, calling for all civilians to join regardless of their age...

warcrime.PNG


Which translates to...

"Official statement of the Commander of the Tro Forces Yuriy Galushkin:

Today, Ukraine needs everyone. All procedures for joining the TR are simplified. You only have a passport and identification code with you. There are no age restrictions.

If you have any problems on the ground, refer to this official statement."


Only it's a war crime to arm and conscript children under 18, to fight your wars!

Is that not exactly what the Nazis did in WW2. The adminstration's are nazi sympathisers which explains it.

His professional soldiers have failed and now Zelenskyy the coward is calling for men, women and children to come and fight for his sorry arse instead of signing the peace deal!

I hope Putin drags him into a war crimes tribunal.

I doubt it, he will be gone before you know it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:16 pm

So what happened to the idea of having Nuclear weapons so it can deter war. Both Russia and America have Nuclear weapons and yet there is no deterence. What a waste of time spending billions a year on them. Just think how much more could be done for the people if that money was put to good use.

Having heard our glorious BoZo give his address Ukraine will be fine because he is behind them and he is praying for them. So they must have god on their side too.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:19 pm

Lordo wrote:This is a Maximoboullari quote

How am I wrong, what could Cyprus have done? they barely had a weapon between 5 infantry men.

As much as I agree with your sentiments Paphitis, there is a time for fighting and there is a time for talking.

When you talk and think like shit, the costs go up substantially when it comes to the fighting.

Would you send you own son (or daughter) to do the fighting or risk your own life for the shit thinking and talking of politicians?

In as far as Ukraine is concerned, this Russian invasion was easily and still is completely avoidable to save lives and property and to preserve the peace.


What an asshole. He actually supported the coup and overthrowing the elected President and is more concerned about stopping the Turks landing so his Nazi fanatics could kill all the TCs.

You don't need to go to square one boy, you need a new fuckin brain.


I wasnt even born you koullouro vromo bordo and I never supported any Greek coup in Cyprus. :roll:

its you that need a new brain, the one you got clearly isnt fit for purpose. Its about as capable as a DOS 1.2 fruit machine program.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:54 pm

It looks like the Ukrainians are ready to talk with the Russians about keeping the countries status neutral and not seek to join NATO.
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