Lordo wrote:One saying that the Russians were compelled to invade Ukraine is not the same as supporting the invasion. By the same token by saying Turkey was compelled to invade Cyprus is not supporting Turkey either. The two are different things.
In reality the situation was identicle. In 2014, the legitemate government was overthrown in Ukraine and so was the Cypriot government in 1974 by similar group of people the fascists. In Ukraine they wanted to wipe out the Russians and in CYprus TC from Cyprus. Fascists know nothing else.
As nobody has answered about what Sampson would have done, tell me what would have happened in 2014 and now if Russia did not invade?
Were the Russians in the east under no danger at all? Add to that how long before Americans would set up a base in Ukraine? and than what?
Yanks can go fuck themselves.
One of the most valuable aspects of this forum to me has been the insights from actual participants views of the history here, post 1960. And particularly of course those regarding 1974. There are, it seems to me, parallels between Ukraine and then but I can't really see any close similarity. As neither can I see with the 1962 Cuban crisis (which, sadly, I can remember! ).
Did they want to "wipe out the Russians"? I don't think so. In fact I don't believe that many - if any at all - were killed before Russia invaded Crimea. After which something like 14000 souls lost their lives. A heavy price, either way.
Much of the other assertions are I believe little more than Conspiracy Theories. Like the secret bio-weapon development labs, much beloved of GR, floated in both the Covid pandemic and this war.
When you say "Yanks can go fuck themselves". do you mean all 350 million? Which, in his gift for simplification, GR seems to want incinerated. When apparently "the world would celebrate like never before" Do you think a Ukrainian saying "Russians can go fuck themselves" under present circumstances would be a valid sentiment? Or, as some seem to delusionally believe, they should be grateful?