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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:38 am

Kikapu wrote:LAGR225 is still flying the pattern with LAGR226 heading towards the pattern also. Looks like LAGR224 has left the scene, most probably heading back to base in the UK.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR225/2aed4fd2 (live)

I have just now spotted LAGR132 on another flight holding pattern just north-west of the above pattern, with LAGR133 heading towards LAGR132. It must be “changing of the guards” or return to fill up again.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR132/2aed789a. (live)

Err, can you take it to the plane spotting enthusiast’s thread? :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:42 am

Kikapu wrote:LAGR225 is still flying the pattern with LAGR226 heading towards the pattern also. Looks like LAGR224 has left the scene, most probably heading back to base in the UK.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR225/2aed4fd2 (live)

I have just now spotted LAGR132 on another flight holding pattern just north-west of the above pattern, with LAGR133 heading towards LAGR132. It must be “changing of the guards” or return to fill up again.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR132/2aed789a. (live)


Yes they would be 24/7 with the tail numbers swapping out.

And what you won’t see are all the planes being refuelled as they are dark.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:43 am

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:but why is it suicide to remain neutral and refuse NATO to be stationed in Ukraine so Russia withdraws?

Some would say that it is suicide to continue on the current trajectory.


Because it’s a slap in the face against their own sovereignty and right to align themselves with whoever they wish.

Abs they also had well proven by now security concerns.


Australia has already said that they are not going to send troops.

The US aint going to send troops, the EU aint going to send troops.

Maybe you and Chuck Norris can go instead.


Australia is considering sending RAAF transports to supply arms to Ukraine.

What the logistics are I don’t know but I presume they will be going through Turkey and their might be some Aussie activity at the SBAs as well. But probably Turkey


That is what it is really about for the west

Fighting Russia to the very last Ukrainian.

Not a good idea....


It’s every citizens obligation to fight for their country. I expect nothing less from any proud country and people.

The same thing should have happened in Cyprus too. No one should have left the occupied areas and every fit person should have armed themselves.

Yes Ukrainians will die but it’s their obligation to ensure that the flow of coffins back to Russia is massive.

If the US was invaded by Cuba, I as a VISA holder have an obligation to the US as I would have an obligation to Australia.

You should never adopt a country of you are not willing to fight for them and abide by their laws and ways. End of.


Cyprus was practically defenseless back then, Cyprus really couldnt do anything against Turkey. Probably still cant. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:43 am

Btw… you’re out of line with your hero, Paphitis!

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/worl ... ussia.html
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:47 am

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:LAGR225 is still flying the pattern with LAGR226 heading towards the pattern also. Looks like LAGR224 has left the scene, most probably heading back to base in the UK.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR225/2aed4fd2 (live)

I have just now spotted LAGR132 on another flight holding pattern just north-west of the above pattern, with LAGR133 heading towards LAGR132. It must be “changing of the guards” or return to fill up again.

https://www.flightradar24.com/LAGR132/2aed789a. (live)

Err, can you take it to the plane spotting enthusiast’s thread? :?


It is not the purpose of plane spotting per se, but all these activities by NATO are related to what is going on in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:04 am

Get Real! wrote:Btw… you’re out of line with your hero, Paphitis!

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/worl ... ussia.html



Out of line with who exactly?

You are out of line with international consensus and that includes EU and Cyprus as well.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:06 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:but why is it suicide to remain neutral and refuse NATO to be stationed in Ukraine so Russia withdraws?

Some would say that it is suicide to continue on the current trajectory.


Because it’s a slap in the face against their own sovereignty and right to align themselves with whoever they wish.

Abs they also had well proven by now security concerns.


Australia has already said that they are not going to send troops.

The US aint going to send troops, the EU aint going to send troops.

Maybe you and Chuck Norris can go instead.


Australia is considering sending RAAF transports to supply arms to Ukraine.

What the logistics are I don’t know but I presume they will be going through Turkey and their might be some Aussie activity at the SBAs as well. But probably Turkey


That is what it is really about for the west

Fighting Russia to the very last Ukrainian.

Not a good idea....


It’s every citizens obligation to fight for their country. I expect nothing less from any proud country and people.

The same thing should have happened in Cyprus too. No one should have left the occupied areas and every fit person should have armed themselves.

Yes Ukrainians will die but it’s their obligation to ensure that the flow of coffins back to Russia is massive.

If the US was invaded by Cuba, I as a VISA holder have an obligation to the US as I would have an obligation to Australia.

You should never adopt a country of you are not willing to fight for them and abide by their laws and ways. End of.


Cyprus was practically defenseless back then, Cyprus really couldnt do anything against Turkey. Probably still cant. :roll:


That is where you are wrong,

Cyprus could have done a lot. The fact that everyone abandoned their villages, towns and houses was a major gimme on a platter for the Turkish Army.

If everyone had your brains, the French wouldn’t have resisted the NAZIs so valiantly. Same with the Yugoslav Partisans, the Greeks, the Poles, and so on.

Yet, despite the sheer power of the NAZIs they all resisted and caused havoc against them and contributed to their eventual defeat.

As I said, if you find your country under occupation, you have obligations and if you don’t meet with those expectations, you should leave as cowards do. At least you can say you left rather than lose your dignity.

And if you are not good enough to fight, then you offer assistance in other capacities like donate food or blood
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:54 am

Get out of the Ukraine mess and avoid nuclear war

https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/get-out-o ... clear-war/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:14 am

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... -in-russia

...while few would agree with Putin in his desires, the Ukraine in affect is militarily speaking all alone; no one will risk direct military confrontation, and sanctions do not have as immediate an effect.

Yet, if the military can hold out beyond the short term, they may win a valuable position when negotiations follow.

...for the record; meanwhile,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_3L0z1lgAE

CNN stumbles upon them, Russian Forces, now in charge at a military airport near Kyiv.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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