Londonrake wrote:Lordo wrote:Since when did EU suddenly decided that everybody should join in the war against Russia by helping Ukraine. France is a sovereign country last time I looked. The issue here is BoZo decided that France should send tanks. He can fuck off to kingdom come. If he wants do send tanks he can but to decide who should be sending them is beyond his remit in decision making. He can only speak for UK and nobody else.
Like I said before what the west is doing is not in the Ukraine interest as it has not stopped the fighting or deaths. It is in the interest of the arms manufacturers in the west though.
Take a step back and see what is really going on over there and who's interests are being served.
I think the EU (not a fan) have collectively decided upon their approach to the war in Ukraine. That, primarily being based upon a joint agreement it's being purely an act of Russian aggression. Which I imagine will result in shock! horror! indignation in here, where it sometimes surreally seems the Russians are a totally reasonable people who have simply been provoked beyond bearing and that the slaughter of Ukrainian people and destruction of their cities is all the fault of...................... fill in the blank.
Macron is doing something entirely typical of the French political elite and is clearly using this situation to promote his election campaign and the fortunes of French companies who remain highly active in Russia. Despicable but - that's the sort of back-stabbing behaviour they've engaged in since de Gaulle.
I can't find anything about the UK PM berating the French for not sending tanks to Ukraine. Although, I'm sure you can come up with something. What he did seem to say was:
"....... following the NATO meeting Western allies were working to ramp up lethal aid to Ukraine in the quantity and with the quality needed for defending Ukraine from Russia’s invasion. But he said the help will likely not extend to tanks and jets. Logistically it looks very difficult, both with armour and jets. We are very conscious of what he is asking for. The equipment we think is most valuable at the moment are missiles, which they can use to defend themselves.”
I'm sorry and truly disappointed but it seems reasonableness doesn't tend to feature as a currency you deal in and - you have a recurring tendency to cherry pick - in extremis.
I've twice asked a perfectly reasonable question - penned without malice. That being, how somebody with your obvious socialist/marxist proclivities could possibly justify supporting a man like Vladimir Putin. The very nemesis of those beliefs. No answer though. It seems that, much like the great man (blessings being upon his name) on this forum, you simply have an overbearing hatred of all things West and are in essence willing to support absolutely anyone who opposes them. A conundrum.
Anyway. Whilst I wouldn't be as childish as the great man and block anybody (IMHO simply an act of cowardice) I have to conclude that there seems little point in feeding your hatred. Which - to be fair to you - is certainly not at all a rare commodity hereabouts.
France really has ticked everyone off lately.
I'm so glad Australia told the Frenchies to jam their subs where the sun don't shine and opt for American Nuclear options.
They should have sent the French Ambassador home as well and closed Australian Embassies down in France.
You can never trust the French.
