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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:To those who don’t get it…

Our politicians had a Democratic vote to gang up against and eliminate our cheap and reliable energy and crop supplier, because it’s in the best interests of our future, so we can then buy LNG at three times the price from the US and elsewhere, ensuring a constant energy crisis at outrageous prices!

The opinion of the masses wasn't needed to give us more free time for leisure! :wink:

And besides, look at how many foolish citizens of the West agree with it all and jumped on the bandwagon!

Yup… more evidence that the EU works! 8)

Oh happy times ahead! :D

No GR, EU has said we will not be stopping the gas and oil flow yet. We will do it when it suits us. In other words when we are free of fossil fuels. By then this war will be a distant memory and everybody will return to their normal business as usual.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:16 pm

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:To those who don’t get it…

Our politicians had a Democratic vote to gang up against and eliminate our cheap and reliable energy and crop supplier, because it’s in the best interests of our future, so we can then buy LNG at three times the price from the US and elsewhere, ensuring a constant energy crisis at outrageous prices!

The opinion of the masses wasn't needed to give us more free time for leisure! :wink:

And besides, look at how many foolish citizens of the West agree with it all and jumped on the bandwagon!

Yup… more evidence that the EU works! 8)

Oh happy times ahead! :D

No GR, EU has said we will not be stopping the gas and oil flow yet. We will do it when it suits us. In other words when we are free of fossil fuels. By then this war will be a distant memory and everybody will return to their normal business as usual.

Why do you think that criminal Biden came to visit yesterday?

Can the US solve Europe's gas demand?

A few moments ago it was confirmed that the US and EU have agreed a major deal on liquefied natural gas - a move intended to reduce Europe's reliance on Russian energy.

But even if the US significantly increases supplies of liquefied natural gas to Europe, for the EU's 27 member states it is only a start.

The EU will still need to find other producers if they're to move away from Russian gas and hit their target of cutting imports by two-thirds this year.

Last year the EU imported 155 billion cubic metres of Russian gas. That's around 40% of its gas imports. Germany alone imports 55% of its gas from Russia, and it's already suspended the opening of a new Russian pipeline called Nord Stream 2.

Last year the EU said it received almost a quarter of its liquefied gas from the US, so if the US increases its supplies by an extra 15 billion cubic metres, that will make a big difference.

But it also raises big questions.

Qatar and Russia are the other big exporters and Qatar says it cannot divert much more to Europe.

On top of that, there is limited availability in liquefied natural gas terminals in Europe, which are already operating at high capacity.

There are 24 large-scale terminals in the EU - they're essential for "regasifying" liquefied imports. Spain has most capacity but limited pipelines to the rest of Europe.

Germany is also looking beyond the US for LNG supplies and has been talking to Norway for shipments in time for next winter.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:20 pm

Cyprus would be wise to start laying the relatively short gas pipelines for our domestic needs asap or we’re fucked. At the moment, we’re burning oil to produce electricity but that too is poised to become a disaster commodity.

Austria, should be the first EU country to get totally fucked from all this as they rely 80% on Russian oil, incidentally they were the ones forcing Covid vaccinations on people not too long ago… karma?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:35 pm

Everything points to getting out of the EU asap for those that can… but the major problem is converting fixed assets to cash in what has now become such a volatile area to live in, and with far worse conditions on the way.

Even last year when I tried to sell some small pieces it proved really hard… of course back then it was Covid causing most of the uncertainties, and now we have that plus America’s maneuvers to turn the EU into trash.

I’m starting to feel trapped in this shithole and not liking it… I really gotta think hard how to move forward. :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:18 pm

Piss off to the M East where your ancestors are. Shit like you is a ...smelly embarrassment for Cyprus. On your bike Psycho.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:18 pm

https://www.terradaily.com/reports/UN_a ... n_999.html

...still a cause for concern, Chernobyl.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:32 pm

Yesterday, the forum’s resident mono-cell made a startling revelation… :?

repulsewarrior wrote:...worth considering the possibility that the Ukraine may win.


Bow how does one arrive at such a conclusion… pure genius? 8)

Well it’s all in the MAPS fools! Take a good look below…

DraftUkraineCoTMarch.png


Now I ask you… who has captured the most territory?

White Area = Captured by Ukrainians 3/4

Red Area = Captured by Russians 1/4


You see? :wink:

The bottom line is that Repulse the mono-cell, can read MAPS and you lot can’t! :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:59 pm

Lordo wrote:Since when did EU suddenly decided that everybody should join in the war against Russia by helping Ukraine. France is a sovereign country last time I looked. The issue here is BoZo decided that France should send tanks. He can fuck off to kingdom come. If he wants do send tanks he can but to decide who should be sending them is beyond his remit in decision making. He can only speak for UK and nobody else.

Like I said before what the west is doing is not in the Ukraine interest as it has not stopped the fighting or deaths. It is in the interest of the arms manufacturers in the west though.

Take a step back and see what is really going on over there and who's interests are being served.


I think the EU (not a fan) have collectively decided upon their approach to the war in Ukraine. That, primarily being based upon a joint agreement it's being purely an act of Russian aggression. Which I imagine will result in shock! horror! indignation in here, where it sometimes surreally seems the Russians are a totally reasonable people who have simply been provoked beyond bearing and that the slaughter of Ukrainian people and destruction of their cities is all the fault of...................... fill in the blank.

Macron is doing something entirely typical of the French political elite and is clearly using this situation to promote his election campaign and the fortunes of French companies who remain highly active in Russia. Despicable but - that's the sort of back-stabbing behaviour they've engaged in since de Gaulle.

I can't find anything about the UK PM berating the French for not sending tanks to Ukraine. Although, I'm sure you can come up with something. What he did seem to say was:

"....... following the NATO meeting Western allies were working to ramp up lethal aid to Ukraine in the quantity and with the quality needed for defending Ukraine from Russia’s invasion. But he said the help will likely not extend to tanks and jets. Logistically it looks very difficult, both with armour and jets. We are very conscious of what he is asking for. The equipment we think is most valuable at the moment are missiles, which they can use to defend themselves.”

I'm sorry and truly disappointed but it seems reasonableness doesn't tend to feature as a currency you deal in and - you have a recurring tendency to cherry pick - in extremis.

I've twice asked a perfectly reasonable question - penned without malice. That being, how somebody with your obvious socialist/marxist proclivities could possibly justify supporting a man like Vladimir Putin. The very nemesis of those beliefs. No answer though. It seems that, much like the great man (blessings being upon his name) on this forum, you simply have an overbearing hatred of all things West and are in essence willing to support absolutely anyone who opposes them. A conundrum.

Anyway. Whilst I wouldn't be as childish as the great man and block anybody (IMHO simply an act of cowardice) I have to conclude that there seems little point in feeding your hatred. Which - to be fair to you - is certainly not at all a rare commodity hereabouts.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:Yesterday, the forum’s resident mono-cell made a startling revelation… :?


From an individual who - not being able to cope with receiving what he routinely, and contemptuously dished out to one and all - once told me to "CUT OUT THE PERSONAL ATTACKS".

Hypocrite: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:17 pm

Let’s remember Madeleine Albright for who she really was...

The former US Secretary of State, who once publicly admitted that she thinks the deaths of half a million Iraqi children were ‘worth it’, was no force for ‘democracy and human rights’.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022 ... really-was

That's not to say that Albright was unique in her evil... the truth is she's no different to every other US politician to have come and gone. PURE EVIL!
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