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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:01 pm

America did not just threaten Russia after the war, they actually took part in stopping socialists coming to power in Europe by any means possible. Including murder.

We even saw what they did to Corby. The most decent politician in the country labelled a an anti-Semite. Bitch called Riley accused him of being racists because when Nelson Mandela came to London he did not meet him. American corporations, Tory bastards and Israeli government turned on him and this is the result. The workers vote for a government that is totally against all their own interests. This is how much power these bastards have over the population. It is being used to this day as we speak against anybody who does not serve American interests all over the world.



The issue here is the average person have the attention span of a fish.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:39 pm

Zelensky's "plan"? Here’s one implemented from the onset…

HUMAN SHIELDS

In every town! And then people wonder why the Russians had bogged down after the 2nd week!


Meanwhile, countless Ukrainian military facilities of all sorts are getting wasted in colorful ways...

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:50 pm

Not just "military facilities". Unless you're totally blind (Heaven forbid!) far more civilian areas are being obliterated, complete with occupants.

The emphasis has now clearly switched to the Aleppo/Grozny tactic of flattening absolutely everything, regardless.

Don't let that idea spoil your enjoyment though.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:32 pm

Londonrake wrote:Not just "military facilities". Unless you're totally blind (Heaven forbid!) far more civilian areas are being obliterated, complete with occupants.

The emphasis has now clearly switched to the Aleppo/Grozny tactic of flattening absolutely everything, regardless.

Don't let that idea spoil your enjoyment though.

UN human rights office reports 636 civilian deaths in Ukraine (14/03)

https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/03/un- ... -ukraine/#

So it’s probably around 750 by today, and an absolute fucking miracle considering civilians being systematically abused as human shields by the criminal and cowardly Ukrainian government, from the very start; and that’s not counting Ukrainian false flags in that tally!

Such a relatively tiny figure is UNPRECEDENTED in such a wide scale and ferocious war, and I’ve closely followed almost every war in the last half century (unlike you).

This elevates the morality of the Russian military to legendary status while risking their own lives!

Top of the world… never been done before, and I’m very proud of them! :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Not just "military facilities". Unless you're totally blind (Heaven forbid!) far more civilian areas are being obliterated, complete with occupants.

The emphasis has now clearly switched to the Aleppo/Grozny tactic of flattening absolutely everything, regardless.

Don't let that idea spoil your enjoyment though.

UN human rights office reports 636 civilian deaths in Ukraine (14/03)

https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/03/un- ... -ukraine/#

So it’s probably around 750 by today, and an absolute fucking miracle considering civilians being systematically abused as human shields by the criminal and cowardly Ukrainian government, from the very start; and that’s not counting Ukrainian false flags in that tally!

Such a relatively tiny figure is UNPRECEDENTED in such a wide scale and ferocious war, and I’ve closely followed almost every war in the last half century (unlike you).

This elevates the morality of the Russian military to legendary status while risking their own lives!

Top of the world… never
been done before, and I’m very proud of them! :D

Shut the fuck up you sick bastard :twisted:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:UN human rights office reports 636 civilian deaths in Ukraine (14/03)

https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/03/un- ... -ukraine/#

So it’s probably around 750 by today, and an absolute fucking miracle considering civilians being systematically abused as human shields by the criminal and cowardly Ukrainian government, from the very start; and that’s not counting Ukrainian false flags in that tally!

Such a relatively tiny figure is UNPRECEDENTED in such a wide scale and ferocious war, and I’ve closely followed almost every war in the last half century (unlike you).

This elevates the morality of the Russian military to legendary status while risking their own lives!

Top of the world… never been done before, and I’m very proud of them! :D


I wonder - after 24 days since 190,000 Russian troops invaded Ukraine, complete with overwhelming armour, artillery and air power. With Ukrainian cities being encircled and subjected to relentless artillery, rocket and air bombardment - just how many people believe that? Totally bonkers. :eyecrazy: Well, nothing new to see here folks. :roll:

I'm being unkind though. Yes. Clearly we should be grateful for how humanely the Russian army has been in its invasion of a neighbouring country. Such a low number of civilian deaths is an incredible indictment to their humanity, given their flattening of Ukrainian cities (80% of Mariupol it seems), mostly by indiscriminate artillery fire.

It's a mystery though. Why they've made such poor progress, given how much help they have been receiving from the Ukrainians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:35 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:UN human rights office reports 636 civilian deaths in Ukraine (14/03)

https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/03/un- ... -ukraine/#

So it’s probably around 750 by today, and an absolute fucking miracle considering civilians being systematically abused as human shields by the criminal and cowardly Ukrainian government, from the very start; and that’s not counting Ukrainian false flags in that tally!

Such a relatively tiny figure is UNPRECEDENTED in such a wide scale and ferocious war, and I’ve closely followed almost every war in the last half century (unlike you).

This elevates the morality of the Russian military to legendary status while risking their own lives!

Top of the world… never been done before, and I’m very proud of them! :D


I wonder - after 24 days since 190,000 Russian troops invaded Ukraine, complete with overwhelming armour, artillery and air power. With Ukrainian cities being encircled and subjected to relentless artillery, rocket and air bombardment - just how many people believe that? Totally bonkers. :eyecrazy: Well, nothing new to see here folks. :roll:

I'm being unkind though. Yes. Clearly we should be grateful for how humanely the Russian army has been in its invasion of a neighbouring country. Such a low number of civilian deaths is an incredible indictment to their humanity, given their flattening of Ukrainian cities (80% of Mariupol it seems), mostly by indiscriminate artillery fire.

It's a mystery though. Why they've made such poor progress, given how much help they have been receiving from the Ukrainians.

The West’s biased reporting is what creates the confusion to those that exclusively rely on it for news.

But when you hear of the numbers of Ukrainian military dead, wounded and captured… it then all starts to make sense.

ie: For every military vehicle the Ukrainians claim to have disabled/destroyed the Russians are taking out tenfold, and the same goes for the dead, wounded and captured (TENS OF THOUSANDS in each).

The Ukraine no longer has a navy or air-force even, and they’re about to lose complete contact with the Black sea as we speak.

But in all its wisdom, the West has no time for reality when the underlying goal is the sinister destruction of the Ukraine so as to point the finger at the “bad” guy!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:43 pm



...the youth; some profound thinking.

Really, very interesting.

...clearly not all Russians are "Russians".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:49 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
...the youth; some profound thinking.

Really, very interesting.

...clearly not all Russians are "Russians".

It seems a recurring theme with you wasting time with unimportant things because it doesn’t matter even if 100 people were to say “I love him” or “I hate him”.

It’s always too small a number (the sample) to be of any significance, and it’s always DIRECTED in accordance with the interviewer’s leanings; he can later edit out whatever parts he wants! :roll:

Get smart and stop wasting your time with EITHER side’s cheap propaganda from junktube.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:The West’s biased reporting is what creates the confusion to those that exclusively rely on it for news.

But when you hear of the numbers of Ukrainian military dead, wounded and captured… it then all starts to make sense.

ie: For every military vehicle the Ukrainians claim to have disabled/destroyed the Russians are taking out tenfold, and the same goes for the dead, wounded and captured (TENS OF THOUSANDS in each).

The Ukraine no longer has a navy or air-force even, and they’re about to lose complete contact with the Black sea as we speak.

But in all its wisdom, the West has no time for reality when the underlying goal is the sinister destruction of the Ukraine so as to point the finger at the “bad” guy!


It's a waste of time trying to reason with you. You read posts, not with a view to understanding and weighing up what's being said but purely from a POV of how to refute them.

You talk about western biased reporting but just parrot Russian propaganda. Never even taking into consideration, or acknowledging, the fact that absolutely all Russian media is state controlled, which is just another way of saying it reflects only Putin's diktats. That's hypocrisy.

I don't read Russian material, not because of any sort of perceived bias but simply because it's monolithic state dictated propaganda. I look daily at quite a wide range of material though and try to weigh things up. Call me naïve but I don't have the "issues" you've always suffered from.

As far as casualty and attrition rate reports are concerned. It's a variable feast. There's lots of evidence - although your closed mind would convulse at the very thought of considering it - that Russian losses are quite significant. This is clearly proving to be a very expensive and embarrassing invasion for the Russians. The idea, after watching them in the past few weeks being kept at bay by the tiny Ukrainian army, they could stand up to any western nations armed forces, let alone all of them in NATO, is risible.

A factor which worries me considerably is Putin's increasingly deranged behaviour. Threatening an entire section of society deemed to be treacherous by virtue of their “slave-like” Western values in a rambling Stalinist TV broadcast where he talked about the "self purification" of Russian society in which "scum and traitors" (people who disagreed with his actions - something you have the luxury of expressing in the filthy, criminal West) would be "spat out like flys". Now there's another Stalin phenomena appearing. The purging of people at senior levels among his circle.

This is my principal concern. One - single - man has the power to destroy our world. What's his mental state? What will it be if things go badly for him? I appreciate you have no fear of a global nuclear holocaust. In fact, as evidenced by several of your posts, you give the impression of fondly looking forward to it. Absolutely - totally - lunatic.

Your posts come back to haunt you GR. :wink:
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