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[Lordo]

Not at all, I am simply trying to get you to understand the kinds of things America does around the world. America was involved leading to war and they are involved during it. If you think by supplying Ukraine arms they are trying to help you must be joking. The arms are being supplied by American war machine and it is being paid for by the American government unless they themselves are getting the money from Ukraine one way or another.
So Ukraine crisis is enriching American business and of course it is deepening the blood both taking place.

The obvious choice was to realise that they were being used as a bate and and remain master of their destiny. Instead they agreed to be bate and here they are.

In any case how many dead from both sides? You compare it to the last war as if it is comparable. Have you any idea how many people died in WW2?

This isn't about America. It's about the fact Russia has poured the majority of its army (who are not doing splendidly well actually) into a neighbouring country and are - as we type from our safe, warm, well-fed, abodes, pulverizing their cities and indiscriminately slaughtering the population. Other than the millions who have fled of course. That's a tragedy, surely worth recognising and not using as some sort of point-scoring exercise?

And yet, like it seems the majority on this forum, you seem to absolutely refuse to acknowledge that simple fact. Instead, the war simply facilitates a platform for displaying ingrained prejudices against the hated West/US. It's about Ukraine.

Do you think what's going on in Ukraine - what the Russians are currently inflicting upon those people - is in any way justified?

Again you misquote/misrepresent me. I said it was the biggest conflict in Europe since WW2. I didn't suggest in any way it was equivalent.

Lordo. I really don't want to argue with you. So, if you'll forgive me, I won't.

I agree that there is no point debating this but I simply cannot understand how you can say this is not about America. When CIA releases their papers you will perhaps understand it but somehow I don't think either of us will be here in 30 years time.

In order to solve the problem the first step is to understand it. Understanding the problem is half the solution is what my maths lecturer used to say.

[Lordo]

You vulgar little maggot, you are nothing but a festering puss sore resulting from a smelly Bordo passing over an ingrown hair on a shaved bum. Go and find that toilet brush you can keep asking about and use it to exfoliate the grime out of that rancid pimple. There is profound evidence that you are a nincompoop, a grey-skulled she-ra with the moral equivalence of a leech stuck on your cockalorum. You rancid pillock, barfing up and down the forum as if what you got something important to say.

Now go and tune your wombat with a rubber band, you heavy metal bag pipe player.

Who left the fuckin cage door open again, back you go boy and take your toilet brush with you hear.

[repulsewarrior]

Despite the fake laugh track and sophomoric overtones, the facts are facts historically speaking.

...just a reminder, two (three) years ago, where we were; what a world we're living in.

And Zelinsky at the center then and now, exposes the world of political elites to our scrutiny (thanks to the Information revolution of this Age,) for an ineptness which goes beyond the issue(s) itself/themselves. It demonstrates the collective effort to be deceiving, a corruption of power, where the "Them" is them, and the "Us" are those who are the rest of us, the People. COVID's cause in essence is no different; what with what ''China'' did more for themselves' than the rest of us with the choices they took at the time. No different to the Industrial complex called NATO, or, to Putin's, or to Turkey's (read: Erdogan's), for that matter, (whether they will admit it or not) also committed to expansion and the power militarily to do so. Yet, the US is biggest, far bigger; it is as though every problem is their problem, and the truth is it's true because the rest of us rely on America's capacity to solve problems. "America", such as an America defined by Trump, or for that matter as it's defined by Biden cannot topple Putin easily: but Zelinsky can, a speck to "them", though awakened "our" imagination has been captured and he cannot be dismissed.

Ukrainians will lose their lives to save Ukraine and its distinct identity as a People, a cost for Freedom it seems few escape from paying to tyranny, and that Ukrainians have always been prepared to fight against their oppression with this cost as well. Russia, or should i say Putin's Russia may fall because of this, it is up to Putin. Such a History buff may pull a rabbit out of his hat, he is quite a magician isn't he? Cornered like a rat he may imagine (this time) greatness differently, and escape, in flight becoming to us a butterfly; defining a BBF with such dignity here, (the Ukraine,) that others with peaceful resolutions will have something to emulate in theirs, (crushing NATO if he does so), that he becomes 'our' Hero, ending his Problem (of Nations and State), giving the People within a (read: any) State Freedom and it's Nations Liberty, among the many others i imagine, ending Erdogan's Problem and the one in Cyprus as well. How else can he defeat Zelinsky's awesome power dead or alive against him, how else can he be welcomed by the ''them'' (and the them) who shun him today?

...how else will the world focus in unity, beyond such threats, real enemies abounding, like disease, and hunger, and the ignorance which leaves us divided, the planet itself screaming to us that 'we' should be saving ourselves from this stress called plunder, that "we" must stop. How else can Putin lead (in such a world), the richest man on earth, with such a mind, but turn instead into a man for even bigger things, a Legacy far bigger than Russia itself, Fame, around the world, not infamy. Such a gateway to good i imagine, such a gateway to bad i imagine Putin is considering too.

[repulsewarrior]

...i like this rant.

cheers.

[repulsewarrior]

...or he can offer the Crimea to Russia as a Sovereign Base.

[repulsewarrior]

...added for the record,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ8eNPBN98

Xi and Biden speak for two hours today, stating that it is in neither's interest, this conflict; agreeing that they have an obligation to work together, for Peace.

[Pyrpolizer]

“Ukraine's EU application could be approved in months, Zelensky says”

Talk about getting one’s priorities right while in the middle of a war and getting beaten to a pulp!

This guy’s detachment from realty and complete absence of any concern for his country now in tatters, is just absolutely staggering!

This is no Ukrainian nationalist but a foreign agent with his eyes set elsewhere...

That's typical behavior of people on cocaine.

[Pyrpolizer]

...or he can offer the Crimea to Russia as a Sovereign Base.

I really pity all those people trying to logically explain Zelensky's "plan".
All they need is a specialist on drugs, more probably a specialist on the effects of cocaine.
No-one exists in the whole world??? Only specialists who try to read Putin's mind???

[Lordo]

Leave the little Master Bate alone. He thought he was in a show and the director would fix things real soon and make him a hero of the show.

How many people here realise that the refugees that are allowed to cross the border are Ukrainian passport holders only. Everybody else is not allowed into Europe.

Some are even not allowed to return because Ukraine is refusing their return.

What a lovely world we live in.

[Pyrpolizer]

No limit to double standards and hypocrisy anymore

https://rumble.com/vx0bjf-demonizing-ru ... -to-j.html