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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:14 pm

"Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities Can Make You Commit Atrocities"

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:22 pm

Putin's six demands to end Russia's invasion of Ukraine

So what has Russian President Vladimir Putin been pushing for?

1. No NATO membership and a neutral position.
2. Russian should be the second official language of Ukraine, with laws prohibiting it abolished.
3. Recognise Crimea as Russian territory.
4. Recognise the independence of Donetsk and Lugansk.
5. Demilitarisation of Ukraine and abandonment of weapons that could be a threat to the Kremlin.
6. Banning of ultra-nationalist parties and organisations in Ukraine.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pu ... 5oMx?ocid=

You'd be hard pressed to find this published in the West's media as they're too busy amassing the armaments!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:31 pm

Some dumb Rambo wannabe describes his negative experience in Ukraine…

https://www.air.tv/watch?v=KGcdJI2IQ5CIOeduoySDRw
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:34 pm

Take it easy Psycho, you will cause damage to your one single brain cell. Anyone ever told you you are a disgusting piece of shit ? Now fuck off
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:36 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:All I see is that the media got bored with this war already.
In less than 2 weeks we will be hearing nothing, other that a few meaningless announcements from Russian media, and some repetitions of the existing crap from the Western media.
I am about to lose interest ... Religious nonsense has never been among my interests anyway, so what's left ?
Oh yeah, next interesting thing would be the draining of our wallets. :wink:


The war in Ukraine has become somewhat of a “reality show” favoring Ukraine where average person we are made to believe have now become “Rambos”, let it be a hairdressers or grandmothers. We only get news from the main stream media favoring Ukraine, so in truth we do not know how bad the war has gotten. This is the way to keep the interest of the outside world to root for the underdog so to send in money and arms so that “David” can fight “Goliath”. The sad thing is with the support from USA, is that there are thousands of homeless people living on US cities where they receive very little help from their own government. I agree with GR, that all this attention is not to help Ukraine but to denigrate Russia. Zelensky despite getting so much money and weapons sent to his country continues to complain not enough is done, presumably not enough is done to enter WWIII.


I doubt all that military aid ever makes it to Ukrainian hands. How could it, considering the hundreds of road blocks? More likely it stays in Western Ukraine, to stir the shit later.
But then again western media is trying to convince us 3 European PMs (Polish,Czech, and Slovenian) actually visited Zelensky in Kiev traveling by train, just to say hello !! Next thing they would tell us is that Anastasiades would also be there if he'd not miss the train! :lol:

As for the effort to denigrate Russia, that's have been achieved already, a bit more a bit less it doesn't matter. The effort now is convince the Russian public that their army is incompetent, doing very little progress if any, to trick them bring out their more advanced weapons. That would be gold in the hands of Nato. So far the Russians just revealed their "darts"...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:42 pm

“China's nuclear threats are following on the heels of Russia's threats and should be a US wakeup call”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... ar-AAV7hSV
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:44 pm

Get Real! wrote:Putin's six demands to end Russia's invasion of Ukraine

So what has Russian President Vladimir Putin been pushing for?

1. No NATO membership and a neutral position.
2. Russian should be the second official language of Ukraine, with laws prohibiting it abolished.
3. Recognise Crimea as Russian territory.
4. Recognise the independence of Donetsk and Lugansk.
5. Demilitarisation of Ukraine and abandonment of weapons that could be a threat to the Kremlin.
6. Banning of ultra-nationalist parties and organisations in Ukraine.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pu ... 5oMx?ocid=

You'd be hard pressed to find this published in the West's media as they're too busy amassing the armaments!


5. Demilitarisation of Ukraine and abandonment of weapons that could be a threat to the Kremlin.


...this one makes me wonder, would Putin accept to demilitarise Russia, (that would solve his biggest (bigger) problem), ending the threat the US/NATO is to him?

...these demands are published daily GR, and there is no reason not to; it is, the reason for armaments being amassed.

...indeed Putin is changing the world, and it is all about choices; being accountable for them counts too, of course.

...indeed, what would the world do, what would the US, if he dared to do such a thing; disarm? Would they invade Russia? Who would they fight?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:49 pm

Biden&Blinken’s War Crime Ukraine War Begetting Holocaust

By refusing to negotiate a fair peace and security treaty with Russia and allowing if not encouraging Europeans to get into confrontation with it, President Joe Biden has criminally forced the Russians into this latest “neoconservative” [1] war – holocaust – of ours, for which which he and we set them up.


The Ukraine War is already a holocaust which has already nearly set off a nuclear disaster, and all this is being blamed on the Russians for invading. However, the war was enabled and instigated by the West – specifically by American President Joseph Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken - forcing it on the Russians by rejecting their legitimate need for a security treaty, giving them no choice but war, and then Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky specifically triggered the attack by intimating Ukraine was open to receiving nuclear weapons.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bidenbli ... ou-coatney

NB: In 1946 the Nuremberg Tribunal concluded…
"To initiate a war of aggression is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:51 pm

:lol: :eyecrazy:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:Btw, although Russia is usually a bit slow to react they don’t let things go unpunished in the long run, so sooner or later they’re going to hand out punishments to all the countries they refer to as “unfriendly nations” in this list that recently circulated.

Therefore, I fear that Cyprus is going to cop a massive cucumber for her betrayal of Russia in the near future, in the form of…

“TRNC” recognition!

So get your arse ready Cyprus, you will have earned it.

Don't pretend you are shocked when it comes!

That’s how fast they’re gonna solve our little Cyprus Problem and with a nice Russian embassy in the north.


You under estimate the intelligence of the Russians who themselves will have eternal international problems with the independence of the 2 regions in Ukraine, and the annexation of Crimea.
At worse they will do some direct flights to the occupied to convince us open up our airspace, like we actually committed ourselves to do at the EU voting.
From there on Turkey and Cyprus may or may not become Russia's air corridor to everywhere.
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