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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:54 am

Londonrake wrote:Yes. We are where we are today. With 190,000 Russian troops slaughtering the population of a neighbouring country and flattening their cities. What must be the best advert for NATO membership in the organisation’s 73 year history.

Ask the Swedes, Finns, Georgians and Moldavians.


Yes but, security of one cannot come at the expense of security of the other. In this situation, neutrality of Ukraine would have been the best policy to maintain good neighbourly security for all, no?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:55 am

Paphitis wrote:Get Real and Pyro are trying to tell us that the vast majority of Cypriots are on Russia's side.

:? I said no such thing and I couldn't care less which side Cypriots are on.

But I expect our sheep to just follow the government narrative, which in turn is passed down to them by the arch-criminal EU and US.

The West eliminated the opposition a long time ago, so these days we only have the State-sponsored media because the State enjoys a completely unchallenged monopoly of the microphone.

It’s all part of the “freedom & democracy” we all enjoy in the Empire of Lies.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:06 am

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Yes. We are where we are today. With 190,000 Russian troops slaughtering the population of a neighbouring country and flattening their cities. What must be the best advert for NATO membership in the organisation’s 73 year history.

Ask the Swedes, Finns, Georgians and Moldavians.


Yes but, security of one cannot come at the expense of security of the other. In this situation, neutrality of Ukraine would have been the best policy to maintain good neighbourly security for all, no?


Sorry Kicks, you can spin this any way you want (and people are! :lol: ). There’s absolutely no justification for what the Russians are doing in Ukraine at the moment.

Out of interest - and not a loaded question, I haven’t looked - what’s the traditionally neutral Swiss official view on all of this?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:23 am

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Yes. We are where we are today. With 190,000 Russian troops slaughtering the population of a neighbouring country and flattening their cities. What must be the best advert for NATO membership in the organisation’s 73 year history.

Ask the Swedes, Finns, Georgians and Moldavians.


Yes but, security of one cannot come at the expense of security of the other. In this situation, neutrality of Ukraine would have been the best policy to maintain good neighbourly security for all, no?


Sorry Kicks, you can spin this any way you want (and people are! :lol: ). There’s absolutely no justification for what the Russians are doing in Ukraine at the moment.

Out of interest - and not a loaded question, I haven’t looked - what’s the traditionally neutral Swiss official view on all of this?


You may call it a spin, but it is the reality as nothing happens in a vacuum. The war in Ukraine was avoidable. It was intentionally allowed to go forward and Russia obliged to the detriment to all those involved. Totally unnecessary.

To my understanding, neutral Switzerland has taken sides with the west and has joined in sanctioning Russia. However, I do not believe the Swiss will be sending any weapons to Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:35 am

A while back I had stated that more weapons given to Ukraine by the west to defend themselves against Russian invasion, greater force Russia will use against Ukraine, hence the destructions caused by Russia. It is now a catch-22 situation there. Going forward, the end does not look good sorry to say.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:51 am

Kikapu wrote:A while back I had stated that more weapons given to Ukraine by the west to defend themselves against Russian invasion, greater force Russia will use against Ukraine, hence the destructions caused by Russia. It is now a catch-22 situation there. Going forward, the end does not look good sorry to say.


The "debate" of course centring around ultimately who it doesn't look good for.

Don't you find the NATO thing risible? Can you imagine the Germans, Spanish, Icelanders, Italians, Greeks - etc, all sitting around a table and reaching agreement? "Great idea, let's invade Russia. Napoleon and Hitler can't both have been wrong." It's a joke. No - wrong word - it's an excuse.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:00 am

Kikapu wrote:A while back I had stated that more weapons given to Ukraine by the west to defend themselves against Russian invasion, greater force Russia will use against Ukraine, hence the destructions caused by Russia. It is now a catch-22 situation there. Going forward, the end does not look good sorry to say.

That and the fact that Ukrainian soldiers must be using abandoned buildings for shelter and to fight from. It’s logical…

There’s no reason for Russia to waste precious time and ammo to strike an apartment block unless there was something strategic spotted inside.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:49 am

They totally raised Aleppo and Grozny no the ground. As a natter of Baboon, bitch-slapping policy.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:49 am

"Media Isn't Warning You" That US Careening Towards Food Crisis 

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/m ... ood-crisis
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:58 pm

“Ukraine is pushing for an immediate ceasefire”

I was gonna suggest that Zelinsky raises his white jocks on a pole REAL high, but I realize his little star spangled banner g-string won’t do... :?

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