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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:10 am

Meanshile, here is a live feed of what's really happening in Russia.

https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/ru ... st-ukraine
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:11 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Pootin's 24 carat gold toilet bowl..

:shock: Where the fuck you got that from? :lol:


It's true. he sits on a 24 carat gold toilet bowl.

It's solid and probably worth a million bucks on its own.

I could only find a luxury jet bathroom, but no gold...

https://ionigeria.com/wp-content/upload ... utin-1.jpg
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:14 am

Paphitis wrote:Meanshile, here is a live feed of what's really happening in Russia.

https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/ru ... st-ukraine

It's not LIVE, but since you want a West opinion you might aswell go BBC live...

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60717902
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:54 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Pootin's 24 carat gold toilet bowl..

:shock: Where the fuck you got that from? :lol:


It's true. he sits on a 24 carat gold toilet bowl.

It's solid and probably worth a million bucks on its own.

I could only find a luxury jet bathroom, but no gold...

https://ionigeria.com/wp-content/upload ... utin-1.jpg


Oh he has one alright - either in the Kremlin or that monster of a palace he built for himself on the Blask Sea. Which is more oppulent than anything the Royal Family have.

What is itr with dictators. It seems all of them are so vane, they love their massive palaces. Erdogan has done the same thing, at the expense of the Turkish people no doubt.

We are so lucky to live in western countries where such debauchery seems to be a lot less prevalent as there is accountability in our democracies.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:01 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Meanshile, here is a live feed of what's really happening in Russia.

https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/ru ... st-ukraine

It's not LIVE, but since you want a West opinion you might aswell go BBC live...

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60717902


I'm able to get the western point of view 24/7. I'm more interested in getting the Russian perspective and that's a very hard thing to do. The Pootin crackdown on the press and social media has made things very difficult. They are now in a state of regression where media is controlled by the State. I have found a couple of sources which appear to be good sources, like Meduza for instance. Russia Today and Sputnik don't quite cut it for me as being anything other than propganda sites.

And lately I have been very impressed with the quality of reporting in America. The place is inumdated with literally thousands of outlets, all protected by the first ammendment.

Not to say that the wqest doesn't produce propaganda. It clearly does. I remember when I was posting about Biden's criminal activity during the US Presidential Elections, I was labelled a proaganda nutcase. The MSM in America brushed it all under the carpet with only a few outlets like Fox News reporting it.

But it was all an effort to sway the US Elections in favour of Biden. So it was all false we were told. And I was a QANON propagandist. But it turns out I was right andc everything I had to say was factual. But it's too late now.

In addition, it also turns out that it was Hillary herself who was colluding with Russia, not Trump. Trump just had a big mouth saying how much he respected and got along with Pootin, giving his naysayers ammunition, but it turns out Hillary was very much in bed with Pootin.

So yeh, the corporate media in America, whilst as pluralist and free as it is, will always favour and protect the interests of corporate America, and will prpbagate lies and distortions in doing that. And their coverage of the US Elections and the US Trump administration was just 24/7 propaganda, because it was in their interests toi get establishment figures back into the white house so they can start wars and sell weapons. And who owns a big chunk of the media. Murdoch does, who is good friends with Obama, and had Clinton on his fast dial.

But having said that, our rights are protected. there are no police coming to bash our doors down to arrest us. You can demonstaret peacefully. There is freedom of speech and freedom of association. We are very lucky not to be in Russia.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Meanshile, here is a live feed of what's really happening in Russia.

https://meduza.io/en/live/2022/02/27/ru ... st-ukraine

It's not LIVE, but since you want a West opinion you might aswell go BBC live...

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60717902


I'll give you another insight. The US people appear to now have quite some regret putting Biden into power. The Afghanistan Withdrawal, and other events, like the Federal Court judgements which seem to clear Trump of any wrong doing, from Russia Gate to the storming of Capitol Hill, have been watershed moments.

The GOP is well and truly on the march now, and should take over the US Senate this year and then the Presidency in 2024.

Whether that's Trump is another question. It seems though, he has the support of the GOP and it is entirely possible Trump could be President once again. It;s hard to say, but the reality is, the GOP can put in Kermit The Frog and still win.

There is now this general consensus that Trump was victimized and unduly targeted by the media, making his Presidency chaotic to the detriment of America. he was portrayed to be evil when in actual fact his biggest fault was vanity and his big ego. But tell me if Obama and Clinto were not exactly the same.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:46 am

The human tragedy continues in Ukraine, thousands killed, soldiers, civilians and innocent little children. It is beyond comprehension that such barbarity has occurred between two Christian nations. Where is their mutual God. Well he, god , doesn't exist, mythology can not do anything to stop this dreadfull war. The little children are the most vulnerable, I know what it feels to lose a loved one. Regardless of whatever concerns Putin might have had on Ukraine joining NATO, his actions are inhumane and barbaric. My Belarussian wife tells me that the people in Belarus are against this action by Russia. Her father is Ukrainian, mother Belarusian. All people are petrified and hoping that this horrid war comes to an end.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:19 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The psychopath is putting ideas in Putin’s head… :lol:

Russia can only take Kyiv if it 'razes it to the ground', President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... s-12563859

Absolute worse leader I’ve ever come across… you get the impression he wants nothing short of total Ukrainian martyrdom! :?


Good morning Vietnam!

Zalensky has been such a global inspiration. Maybe you lot should take a leaf from his book. Oh wait, on second thoughts, you should all surrender as it's both logical and safe. And you are good at it too.


There is wisdom to the fact that one can lose the battle, but still win the war. Zelensky is determined to lose the battle and the war from the beginning by risking his people and the country. That is not a sign of great leadership. Sometimes in life it is better to sacrifice a little if one must to save the rest and to fight another day. I suppose Zelensky’s way of thinking is that, if Russia razes Ukraine to the ground and he can still remain in power, he could use all of frozen Russian billions in foreign banks to re-build again. That is going to be a long shot to succeed.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:58 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The psychopath is putting ideas in Putin’s head… :lol:

Russia can only take Kyiv if it 'razes it to the ground', President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war- ... s-12563859

Absolute worse leader I’ve ever come across… you get the impression he wants nothing short of total Ukrainian martyrdom! :?


Good morning Vietnam!

Zalensky has been such a global inspiration. Maybe you lot should take a leaf from his book. Oh wait, on second thoughts, you should all surrender as it's both logical and safe. And you are good at it too.


There is wisdom to the fact that one can lose the battle, but still win the war. Zelensky is determined to lose the battle and the war from the beginning by risking his people and the country. That is not a sign of great leadership. Sometimes in life it is better to sacrifice a little if one must to save the rest and to fight another day. I suppose Zelensky’s way of thinking is that, if Russia razes Ukraine to the ground and he can still remain in power, he could use all of frozen Russian billions in foreign banks to re-build again. That is going to be a long shot to succeed.

Your conclusion leaves a lot to be desired. Which war did he win exactly? He is not a member of the EU or Nato. Let us assume that he has used the sanctioned money which I doubt he will get, to rebuild, what's to stop Russia knocking them down again claiming they were built with stolen money. Where exactly will he rebuild? Will he have a country to rebuild is another uncertain area.

Certainly America is the winner here because she has been trying to break economic ties of EU and Russia and at that they finally succeded. I suspect most of the sanction money will go to paying for the weapons they sent over to Ukraine. In the meantime EU has to find alternative resources all of which are under the control of the American and Israili corporations.

In the meantime the victims are the Ukranian and Russian civilians. Half of Ukrainians lost everything and most of the Russian civilians are suffering economically because of the sunctions.

Although there is a small ray of hope. The Europeans have finally started talking about defending themselves and not depending on outsiders. I read that to be the Americans and the British armies out of Europe. Lets see how it develops. Will the Americans respect their soverignty and let them do as they wish.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:46 am

Paphitis wrote:I'll give you another insight. The US people appear to now have quite some regret putting Biden into power.

Well he’s turned out to be an extremely dangerous buffoon who cares not for the planet… nobody could’ve predicted this… his insanity was seen as rather “aloof” but it’s actually very sinister.

So in hindsight, Trump was the better option… at least Trump kept attacking America with dumb boomerang sanctions against China, instead of promoting WWIII.

At the end of the day America has no shortage of psychopaths to install in power, forever keeping our planet volatile.

I’m pretty tired of the West’s merry-go-round of dangerous criminals, and I can’t wait for the coming SinoRussian takeover. I hope I’m still around to see it materialize… the sooner the better.
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