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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:02 am



Ha,ha,ha how good they are in hiding their hypocrisy..
Why don't the say it clearly?
What's at risk here is not the Iran new deal, but their own sanctions against Russia. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:17 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:


Ha,ha,ha how good they are in hiding their hypocrisy..
Why don't the say it clearly?
What's at risk here is not the Iran new deal, but their own sanctions against Russia. :lol: :lol: :lol:

:) Ti na kanoun ta ftoxa...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:17 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:I was just watching the 8 o'clock news on ANT1 that as a rule together with all other local stations regurgitate foreign media. I was surprised they said that Israel suggested Zelensky to accept the Russian terms to end the war with the minimum possible losses.
Went on straight to Google punching the following keywords "Israel urging Ukraine to accept the terms".
And what did I get?
A million articles saying: "Israel Denies It Urged Ukraine To Accept Russian Stance" :shock:
Not even one article supporting what ANT1 said...
I decided to read one from Israel to get a better understanding of what actually happened.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-d ... e-advisor/
Read it all and draw your own conclusions.


Now let's look at the absurdity of the claim that Ukraine should surrender and accept Russia's terms and occupation mind you.

If everyone had that mindset, then Germany would have won WW2. There would be no Greek resistance. No French Ressistence. There would be no resisteance from the Partizans. Even Russia would have to have surrendered to the NAZI onslaught.

Britain should have surrendered too to stop the Blitz.

And the Jews would have been completely exterminated in Europe at least.

So when another country invades a sovereign country, they should surrender. Cyprus should surrender to Turkey as well. All Turkey needs to do is invade the rest, and Cyprus should just surrender. No point resisting right?

I'm sure that would make you happy Pyro.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:18 am

Understanding Ukrainian Nazism
https://geopolitics.co/2022/02/26/under ... an-nazism/

The American Empire Self-Destructs, But Nobody Thought That It Would Happen This Fast
https://geopolitics.co/2022/03/09/the-a ... this-fast/

Russian Judo Tears the West Apart
https://geopolitics.co/2022/03/09/russi ... est-apart/

Cawthorn calls Zelensky a 'thug,' Ukrainian government 'evil' in video
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5977 ... l-in-video
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:19 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Israel won’t be pleased that the Iran deal faces collapse but neither can they afford to get nasty with Russia… they’ll be walking a tightrope knowing that Russia is currently in aggressive mode and don’t back down.


Do you think Russia could possibly cooperate with Iran to help it develop nukes? I mean that would really scare the Israelis. Would the Iranians want that? They seem very eager to proceed with their peaceful use of nuclear energy, and get rid of the sanctions.


Israel would have no choice but to start pre-emptive attacks on Iran.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:21 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Israel won’t be pleased that the Iran deal faces collapse but neither can they afford to get nasty with Russia… they’ll be walking a tightrope knowing that Russia is currently in aggressive mode and don’t back down.


Do you think Russia could possibly cooperate with Iran to help it develop nukes? I mean that would really scare the Israelis. Would the Iranians want that? They seem very eager to proceed with their peaceful use of nuclear energy, and get rid of the sanctions.

I thought about Russia toying with the idea of making Iran a nuclear power… but it gets pretty complicated.

Russia would definitely fall out with Israel and that’s where things start to get vague… uncharted territory. :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Israel won’t be pleased that the Iran deal faces collapse but neither can they afford to get nasty with Russia… they’ll be walking a tightrope knowing that Russia is currently in aggressive mode and don’t back down.


Do you think Russia could possibly cooperate with Iran to help it develop nukes? I mean that would really scare the Israelis. Would the Iranians want that? They seem very eager to proceed with their peaceful use of nuclear energy, and get rid of the sanctions.

I thought about Russia toying with the idea of making Iran a nuclear power… but it gets pretty complicated.

Russia would definitely fall out with Israel and that’s where things start to get vague… uncharted territory. :?


The IAF isn't at all vague about it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:24 am

Paphitis wrote:Now let's look at the absurdity of the claim that Ukraine should surrender and accept Russia's terms and occupation mind you.

I don't think it really matters to Russia... they're confident they'll get their way this week or the next or the one after that.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:25 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Israel won’t be pleased that the Iran deal faces collapse but neither can they afford to get nasty with Russia… they’ll be walking a tightrope knowing that Russia is currently in aggressive mode and don’t back down.


Do you think Russia could possibly cooperate with Iran to help it develop nukes? I mean that would really scare the Israelis. Would the Iranians want that? They seem very eager to proceed with their peaceful use of nuclear energy, and get rid of the sanctions.

I thought about Russia toying with the idea of making Iran a nuclear power… but it gets pretty complicated.

Russia would definitely fall out with Israel and that’s where things start to get vague… uncharted territory. :?

The IAF isn't at all vague about it.

I really don’t want to get too much into Israel because this isn’t their thread, but you need to realize that Israel’s options are very limited. They're not a superpower.

They’ve got 4 little submarines that Germany gave them 3 years ago and some long range bombers that would need mid-air refueling to get that far… they’ll need another actor to help them with fuel… not enough independence to act alone while risking what would now be a nuclear power… so doesn’t look good for Israel.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:25 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:I was just watching the 8 o'clock news on ANT1 that as a rule together with all other local stations regurgitate foreign media. I was surprised they said that Israel suggested Zelensky to accept the Russian terms to end the war with the minimum possible losses.
Went on straight to Google punching the following keywords "Israel urging Ukraine to accept the terms".
And what did I get?
A million articles saying: "Israel Denies It Urged Ukraine To Accept Russian Stance" :shock:
Not even one article supporting what ANT1 said...
I decided to read one from Israel to get a better understanding of what actually happened.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bennett-d ... e-advisor/
Read it all and draw your own conclusions.


Now let's look at the absurdity of the claim that Ukraine should surrender and accept Russia's terms and occupation mind you.

If everyone had that mindset, then Germany would have won WW2. There would be no Greek resistance. No French Ressistence. There would be no resisteance from the Partizans. Even Russia would have to have surrendered to the NAZI onslaught.

Britain should have surrendered too to stop the Blitz.

And the Jews would have been completely exterminated in Europe at least.

So when another country invades a sovereign country, they should surrender. Cyprus should surrender to Turkey as well. All Turkey needs to do is invade the rest, and Cyprus should just surrender. No point resisting right?

I'm sure that would make you happy Pyro.


Once again you proved to be a total waste of time.
I already answered you what a nation should do in case it is attacked or invaded. I won't repeat it a million times just because you don't get it. It's NOT what you assume. Go back, find it and read it
Secondly the issue here is what was your own conclusion after reading the Israeli article. Did the Israelis proposed it or did they not. Prove for once in your life that you are not dumb.
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