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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:No I'm not suggesting such a thing.

But I am suggesting that the average Texan is much wealthier than the average Russian, earns higher salaries, has bigger savings and spending power and are more than likely to spend more on European luxury cars, and not to mention, American luxury cars as well, like the wonderful Silverado. Seems to be a favourite in Texas and who can blame them?

I'm also suggesting that the Russian economy is about the same size of the Texas economy. That's just 1 state of the USA. So their economy, is most certainly a lot more vulnerable to sanctions than the US. But pootin doesn't care if Russians die of hunger.


Now that you agree that GDP has almost no relation to the Standard of living -otherwise we in Cyprus should be still living in caves- let's go a few steps further:

Is Russia really such an insignificant nation having about the same GDP of Spain?
Why does Russia have such an overwhelming conventional military force, let aside the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world? Does the huge size of Russia, it's huge natural resources, have any effect in making it a superpower?
Make no mistake. Russia is a superpower, and does not depend in forcing the whole world in using the petrodollar for energy transactions to keep it's economy going more and more in debt.

For the sanctions to have any effect, there must be someone who will force the whole world to impose those sanctions. Who is that someone who will force the whole world to do it???
Hint: Turkey already refused. Serbia already refused. Germany, Italy, Hungary etc already refused to cut Russian gas. The whole Asia, Africa, Middle East already refused.
Forecast: Every possible "sanctioned" goodie, will be available to consumers in Russia in no longer than 6 months . Now it's your turn to do some brain exercise and find out how.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:13 pm

Someone PLEASE help me embrace and adopt the crocodile tears over the Ukraine… for I’m so struggling! :)

I’d love to join my Western brothers… I just don’t know how… I was brought up to be honest!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Well here you go again... you resort to personal attacks because you are beaten in logical debate!



Get Real! wrote:I ask again, which of these former losers are your aliases?

LadyGodiva
MrFartPot
CryMeNot
SnottyPants
FifiTheFly
MrBoring
OverestimatedPea
BottomDog
DullBuffoon
RoyalCobweb
FootInGrave


But let me ask you something... are you not female?

You also happen to be the same stupid old psychotic bag that bombarded me at one time with a dozen PMs about your daft “great puppeteer” theory, are you not?

And I'll hazard a guess you haven’t got a penis… not that gender matters to us here on the CF but in your case it’s kind of relevant, isn’t it?

I’ve been mostly ignoring you because I knew you were just a stupid old psychotic bag unworthy of my time.

Look, it’s very simple…

At the end of the day you’re a stupid old time-wasting psychotic bag so go sign up to a hospice where you’ll be welcomed.

Now get the fuck outta my face, you uneducated 2c clown!

Hey, we can always shove a cucumber up your arse to satisfy your need for attention!

Get the fuck outta here you disgusting old fart...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:17 pm

So you strategically pulled out a piece from years ago, when we were exchanging blows but forgot to include YOUR part of the exchange!

OK! Here's a chocolate cookie for you ---> 0

You've earned it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Oh btw Russia did not directly sanctioned anyone so far. They just announced they won't allow exports of wheat until August because they would need it for themselves. It looks the Russians are getting ready to starve eating only bread and onions . :lol: :lol: :lol:
And suddenly Governments all over Europe Cyprus included all got hysteric how they would feed their people, their animals in farms etc. :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:25 pm

GR

In 5 years on this forum, one of the best jokes I've seen is when your threw your dummy in the dirt and in a "Goodbye cruel world" post said that you were off - followed by a number of infantile insults aimed at various individuals - including a homophobic for me - said that you were off "to find a forum where I can have a mature debate". :lol:

Now - you either mind your manners and we have a reasonable and serious debate - with mutual respect exchanged - or, trust me, you're going to get a lot of incoming, embarrassing shite. What's your pleasure Sir? :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:28 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No I'm not suggesting such a thing.

But I am suggesting that the average Texan is much wealthier than the average Russian, earns higher salaries, has bigger savings and spending power and are more than likely to spend more on European luxury cars, and not to mention, American luxury cars as well, like the wonderful Silverado. Seems to be a favourite in Texas and who can blame them?

I'm also suggesting that the Russian economy is about the same size of the Texas economy. That's just 1 state of the USA. So their economy, is most certainly a lot more vulnerable to sanctions than the US. But pootin doesn't care if Russians die of hunger.


Now that you agree that GDP has almost no relation to the Standard of living -otherwise we in Cyprus should be still living in caves- let's go a few steps further:

Is Russia really such an insignificant nation having about the same GDP of Spain?
Why does Russia have such an overwhelming conventional military force, let aside the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world? Does the huge size of Russia, it's huge natural resources, have any effect in making it a superpower?
Make no mistake. Russia is a superpower, and does not depend in forcing the whole world in using the petrodollar for energy transactions to keep it's economy going more and more in debt.

For the sanctions to have any effect, there must be someone who will force the whole world to impose those sanctions. Who is that someone who will force the whole world to do it???
Hint: Turkey already refused. Serbia already refused. Germany, Italy, Hungary etc already refused to cut Russian gas. The whole Asia, Africa, Middle East already refused.
Forecast: Every possible "sanctioned" goodie, will be available to consumers in Russia in no longer than 6 months . Now it's your turn to do some brain exercise and find out how.


No I never said they were insignificant.

But in comparison to the US, and if they were to go into a tit for tat economic war, they are a minnow and probably will be eating bread, and onions in 3 months time.

Russia has a good military. It's a strong country. However, it seems the west has over estimated their conventional capability. From what we have seen in the Ukraine, they are no match for NATO. The only thing they have going for them, is the fact they are a nuclear power. But if it wasn't for that Nuclear capability, ordinarily, they do not have a military force that would be that much of a major concern to NATO.

Russia spends 50 billion on their armed forces. Pootin would rather spend the money on their military than to feed his people.

The Sanctiosn are not just about gas. mind you, Germany and Italy will only refuse for so long as they securte their own energy needs. For instance, germany shut down their nuclear reactors, which was a strupid move. They are just going to have to fire up some coal power plants and look at Niuclear energy again, and just forget about Green House emmissions.

What a stuff up that was.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:30 pm

Londonrake wrote:GR

In 5 years on this forum, one of the best jokes I've seen is when your threw your dummy in the dirt and in a "Goodbye cruel world" post said that you were off - followed by a number of infantile insults aimed at various individuals - including a homophobic for me - said that you were off "to find a forum where I can have a mature debate". :lol:

Now - you either mind your manners and we have a reasonable and serious debate - with mutual respect exchanged - or, trust me, you're going to get a lot of incoming, embarrassing shite. What's your pleasure Sir? :wink:

Your new “strategy” of going down your selective “memory lane” won’t cut it because the fact remains that you have FAILED in convincing us why the Ukraine is so special, and I don’t think you’ll find that answer in any of the forum’s past 20 years of irrelevant posts!

Sorry… :?

Your… “Let me take you to the past where I can hopefully score some brownie points” strategy isn’t gonna work mate...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Having said that about some 'extremists that we have here, the Cyprus Government seems to have adopted a stance that seems consistent with the EU and even the US. This stance seems to be bipartisan accross the main political parties in Cyprus, such as DISY, DIKO, EDEK and AKEL.

So Cyprus itself and its political institutions have condemned Russia's actions and have even issued sanctions of their own and have also banned Russian aircraft using Cypriot Airspace.

There may be the odd Cypriot nutcase in Parliament - we all seem to have them these days, Cyprus being no exception, but overall Cyprus does not seem to share extremist positions like we see here where America's enemy is my friend type of attitude.

And overall, I suspect the vast majority of Cypriots also condemn Russia's invasion. so this forum does seem to be a rather nasty echo chamber of extreme views.


Why are you licking LR's ass? Who is LR on the first place, some British PM?
Fyi information our hypocrites in the Govnt agreed to close our airspace, reserving the right to open it if Turkey doesn't close theirs.
It's one thing to be a politically correct hypocrite or Government and another thing to face reality.
I urge you to dare you talk with the average Cypriot. The vast majority Left Right and Center actually blame the West and the Ukrainians for all this tragedy.

Btw who are you calling extremists?? You should have the courage to name each one instead of like hiding behind the skirt of a woman using name calling in plural.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:48 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Having said that about some 'extremists that we have here, the Cyprus Government seems to have adopted a stance that seems consistent with the EU and even the US. This stance seems to be bipartisan accross the main political parties in Cyprus, such as DISY, DIKO, EDEK and AKEL.

So Cyprus itself and its political institutions have condemned Russia's actions and have even issued sanctions of their own and have also banned Russian aircraft using Cypriot Airspace.

There may be the odd Cypriot nutcase in Parliament - we all seem to have them these days, Cyprus being no exception, but overall Cyprus does not seem to share extremist positions like we see here where America's enemy is my friend type of attitude.

And overall, I suspect the vast majority of Cypriots also condemn Russia's invasion. so this forum does seem to be a rather nasty echo chamber of extreme views.


Why are you licking LR's ass? Who is LR on the first place, some British PM?
Fyi information our hypocrites in the Govnt agreed to close our airspace, reserving the right to open it if Turkey doesn't close theirs.
It's one thing to be a politically correct hypocrite or Government and another thing to face reality.
I urge you to dare you talk with the average Cypriot. The vast majority Left Right and Center actually blame the West and the Ukrainians for all this tragedy.

Btw who are you calling extremists?? You should have the courage to name each one instead of like hiding behind the skirt of a woman using name calling in plural.


I'm not licking his ass. But I am a friend of his, and hope to meet with him in the next year or sp (more likely in 2 years time).

Well, it seems I also have a bit in common with him as well, as he use tio work at RAAF Edinburgh.

I seriously doubt anyone blames the west. Cypriuots can't be that fucked in the head like you are. The west has done nothing to provoke the invasion of Ukraine. The invasion of Ukraine was always on the drawing board when the Ukraine people booted out the Russian Puppet regime - who is one of the rishest Oligarchs on the planet mind you and has a lot put away in Cypriot banks. Money stolen from the Ukrainian people.

I challenge you to actually get out from the kafeneio and prove that Cypriots are that stupid to blame the west.

And as for Turkey, well, they have been arming the Ukrainian Military with Bayraktar Drones - which have been extremely effective as well.
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