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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:00 pm

Londonrake wrote:Seems a bit puzzling though. Given the Russians supposedly started out with about 190,000 troops, have complete air, armour and artillery superiority why would they need all those extra bods? :?

Once you capture large chunks of territory you need significant units to manage/contain them so this decreases the numbers that are available to keep pushing forward. This is what has slowed Russia down recently.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Seems a bit puzzling though. Given the Russians supposedly started out with about 190,000 troops, have complete air, armour and artillery superiority why would they need all those extra bods? :?

Once you capture large chunks of territory you need significant units to manage/contain them so this decreases the numbers that are available to keep pushing forward. This is what has slowed Russia down recently.


Good luck with that one. They'll need 190,000 just to secure Kyiv if they even are able to defeat the Ukrainian military there.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:19 pm

Turkish Bayraktar Drones in Action.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:30 pm

Anyway, seeing that the idiotic Paphitis has decided to obstruct debate with his own version of a DDoS attack, I’ll catch you guys tomorrow.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:Anyway, seeing that the idiotic Paphitis has decided to obstruct debate with his own version of a DDoS attack, I’ll catch you guys tomorrow.


That's a pity. :(

Know who you remind me of GR? The Joker in Batman (loved Heath Ledgers). Absolutely brilliant but...................................... totally fucking bonkers. :eyecrazy: :lol:

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:38 pm

Get Real! wrote:Anyway, seeing that the idiotic Paphitis has decided to obstruct debate with his own version of a DDoS attack, I’ll catch you guys tomorrow.


Mission accomplished! 8)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:50 pm

"It is very hot in Ukraine today, and we Georgians have a unique opportunity to reclaim our land," one man says in a video uploaded to social media and apparently filmed somewhere in Ukraine, according to RFE/RL's Georgian Service.


https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-abkhazi ... 46764.html

Mothers in Russia may have the final word on Putin's war(s).

...more deaths and those maimed by these wars, despite the news blackouts, will not remain hidden indefinitely.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:Leaked FSB report warns Pootin of impending Russian Military defeat.

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This is NOT a report. More likely it's from the diary of a Russian soldier.
I used google to translate the first 5000 characters --->

18+ One of the insiders from the special services of the Russian Federation, I will publish without edits and censorship, because this is hell: “I’ll be honest right away: I have hardly slept all these days, almost all the time at work, my head is a little floating, like in a fog. And from overwork, sometimes I already catch states, as if all this is not real.
To be honest, the Pandora's box is open - a real global horror will begin by the summer - global famine is inevitable (Russia and Ukraine were the main suppliers of grain in the world, this year's harvest will be smaller, and logistical problems will bring the catastrophe to a peak point).
I can't tell you what guided those at the top when deciding on the operation, but now they are methodically lowering all the dogs on us (the Service). We are scolded for analytics - this is very in my profile, so I will explain what is wrong.
Recently, we have been increasingly pressed to customize reports to the requirements of management - I once touched on this topic. All these political consultants, politicians and their retinue, influence teams - all this created chaos. Strong.
Most importantly, no one knew that there would be such a war, they hid it from everyone. And here's an example for you: you are asked (conditionally) to calculate the possibility of human rights protection in different conditions, including the attack of prisons by meteorites. You specify about meteorites, they tell you - this is so, reinsurance for calculations, nothing like this will happen. You understand that the report will be just for show, but you need to write in a victorious style so that there are no questions, they say, why do you have so many problems, did you really work badly. In general, a report is being written that when a meteorite falls, we have everything to eliminate the consequences, we are great, everything is fine. And you concentrate on tasks that are real - we don’t have enough strength anyway. And then suddenly they really throw meteorites and expect that everything will be according to your analytics, which was written from the bulldozer.
That is why we have a total piz_ets - I don’t even want to pick another word. There is no protection from sanctions for the same reason: well, it’s quite possible that Nabiullina will be sewn up with negligence (rather, the switchmen from her team), but what are they to blame for? No one knew that there would be such a war, so no one prepared for such sanctions. This is the reverse side of secrecy: since no one was told, then who could calculate what no one told about?
Kadyrov is going crazy. And the conflict almost started with us: perhaps even the Ukrainians threw in misinformation that it was we who handed over the routes of Kadyrov's special forces in the first days of the operation. They were covered there on the march in a terrible way, they had not yet begun to fight, but they were simply torn to pieces in some places. And off we go: it was the FSB that leaked the routes to the Ukrainians. I do not have such information, I will leave 1-2% for reliability (it cannot be completely ruled out either).
Blitzkrieg failed. It is simply impossible to complete the task now: if Zelensky and the authorities were captured in the first 1-3 days, they seized all the key buildings in Kyiv, they gave them the order to surrender - yes, the resistance would subside to the minimum values. In theory. But what's next? Even with this ideal variant, there was an unsolvable problem: with whom to negotiate? If we demolish Zelensky, well, with whom should we sign agreements? If with Zelensky, then after we demolish it, these papers are worth nothing. Opposition Platform for Life refused to cooperate: Medvedchuk is a coward, he fled. There is a second leader there - Boyko, but he refuses to work with us - even his own people will not understand him. They wanted to return Tsarev, so even our pro-Russians turned against him. Return Yanukovych? But as? If we say that it is impossible to occupy, then any of our authorities will be killed there in 10 minutes, as we leave. Occupy? Where are we going to get so many people? Commandant's offices, military police, counterintelligence, security - even with minimal resistance from the locals, we need 500 thousand or more people. Not counting the supply system. And there is a rule that by covering the poor quality of management with quantity, you only spoil everything. And this, I repeat, would be with the ideal option, which does not exist.
What now? We cannot announce mobilization for two reasons:
1) Large-scale mobilization will undermine the situation inside the country: political, economic, social.
2) Our logistics are already overstretched today. We will drive a many times larger contingent, and what will we get? Ukraine is a hefty country in terms of territory. And now the level of hatred towards us is going through the roof. Our roads simply won't be able to handle such supply caravans - everything will come to a standstill. And we won’t manage to pull it out - because chaos.
And these two reasons fall out at the same time, although even one is enough to break everything off.
Losses: I don't know how many there are. Nobody knows. The first two days there was still control, now no one knows what is going on there. You can lose large units in communication. They can be found, or they can dissolve due to being attacked. And there, even the commanders may not know how many of them are running around somewhere nearby, how many died, how many are in captivity. The number of deaths is definitely in the thousands. Maybe 10 thousand, maybe 5, or maybe only 2. Even at the headquarters they don’t know for sure. But d
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