Maximus wrote:..all NATO seems to be, is a mote around the US.
You meant moat?
Maximus wrote:..all NATO seems to be, is a mote around the US.
Get Real! wrote:Maximus wrote:..all NATO seems to be, is a mote around the US.
You meant moat?
1. Russia will prevail and Ukraine will lose.
2. Ukraine is going to be partitioned. Putin is going to create the buffer he needs to assure his country’s security.
3. Whoever governs the western part of Ukraine will be required to declare their “neutrality” (in writing) and reject any offers for NATO membership. If they violate that promise, they will be removed by force.
Kikapu wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Paphitis wrote:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PwyXC6zhHI[/youtube]
I always thought it's impossible for Russia to control 40M hostile population even if it captures the whole of Ukraine.
The situation is already a huge human tragedy considering Mariupol is only 400K population imagine what will happen when they would enter Kiev (3M population)
I foresee a long term instability to say the least, not only in Ukraine but within Russia as well.
Even before the fighting started, I believed the Russian strategy was to capture just half of Ukraine and divide the country into two parts, East & West. The Eastern part including Kiew would be in the Russians hand and occupied and the Western half will be in the hands of the Ukrainians. No doubt majority of the Ukrainians from the Eastern half would move to the Western part, which would become heavily dependent on the West to feed and house them in their own country. This will allow Russia to completely control the Eastern half of Ukraine with very little resistance from any underground fighters. So far looking at the war map, it seems to be playing out that way from the areas Russia has already taken and areas they are heading to. Once Russian military achieves this objectives, the Eastern part will be annexed by Russia for good.
Yes that's quite possible. I don't think there will ever be an agreement with the Ukrainian Government...
But ... Kikapu weren't you who predicted they would turn Ukraine into a federation of small districts?
Err, not me boss!
Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Paphitis wrote:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PwyXC6zhHI[/youtube]
I always thought it's impossible for Russia to control 40M hostile population even if it captures the whole of Ukraine.
The situation is already a huge human tragedy considering Mariupol is only 400K population imagine what will happen when they would enter Kiev (3M population)
I foresee a long term instability to say the least, not only in Ukraine but within Russia as well.
Even before the fighting started, I believed the Russian strategy was to capture just half of Ukraine and divide the country into two parts, East & West. The Eastern part including Kiew would be in the Russians hand and occupied and the Western half will be in the hands of the Ukrainians. No doubt majority of the Ukrainians from the Eastern half would move to the Western part, which would become heavily dependent on the West to feed and house them in their own country. This will allow Russia to completely control the Eastern half of Ukraine with very little resistance from any underground fighters. So far looking at the war map, it seems to be playing out that way from the areas Russia has already taken and areas they are heading to. Once Russian military achieves this objectives, the Eastern part will be annexed by Russia for good.
Yes that's quite possible. I don't think there will ever be an agreement with the Ukrainian Government...
But ... Kikapu weren't you who predicted they would turn Ukraine into a federation of small districts?
Err, not me boss!
Indeed!!
Your prediction was always the same.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue
Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:16 pm
Unlike East Germany, Russia would allow Ukrainians on the eastern half of Ukraine to be transplanted to the unoccupied western half, and allow Russia supporting Ukrainians to move to the Eastern half, and then just like Crimea, annex the eastern half of Ukraine through a “democratic” vote.
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