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[repulsewarrior]

...news on the election's progress. (judge for yourself)

[Lordo]

Trying to ruin peoples' votes that have been cast is not something to be celebrated RW. This is political vandalism.

[repulsewarrior]

...ruining your own vote is still a worthy choice (in a situation like this).

[repulsewarrior]

...and from two years ago

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ohcUcYdyo[/youtube]

[repulsewarrior]

Putin speaks.

[Lordo]

...ruining your own vote is still a worthy choice (in a situation like this).

No it is not RW. Our democracy is not a real democracy, it is 5 or 6 year dictatorship but we do have a choice as to who does it. These people had a choice and not to vote in any way is just stupid. In fact that's what Putin would want them to do so his percentage is higher. In some countries it is illegal not to vote. People gave their lives for us to be given the right to vote and we are insulting their memory by not voting.

Some people on the clip tried to ruin other peoples' vote. That is disgusting.

[Kikapu]

So, it appears that Putin got 87+% of the presidential vote.

Putin must have cheated, no?

But wait, are we not told in the West that war time presidents do well in elections, especially when fighting against Nazis and cunts?

Isn’t Biden trying to be a war time president to help him win 2024 elections, even though he is really not at war with anyone, but just a chicken shit president along with all the other chicken shit leaders in the collective West fighting Russia in a proxy war in Ukraine?

[Lordo]

So, it appears that Putin got 87+% of the presidential vote.

Putin must have cheated, no?

But wait, are we not told in the West that war time presidents do well in elections, especially when fighting against Nazis and cunts?

Isn’t Biden trying to be a war time president to help him win 2024 elections, even though he is really not at war with anyone, but just a chicken shit president along with all the other chicken shit leaders in the collective West fighting Russia in a proxy war in Ukraine?

Add to that refusing to talk ceasefire so at least the killing stops. This is a political problem and can only be solved by negotiation, maximalist demands like Russia must withdraw before talking does not work. It did not work in Cyprus all those decades and it will not work now.

[Londonrake]

So, it appears that Putin got 87+% of the presidential vote.

You're shocked? Really?

Putin must have cheated, no?

If you consider exercising total control over all national media and the electoral process to minimise and eliminate (take that whichever way you want) any potential opponents, even though they would attract a derisory following - but spoiling the impression of unanimous support for the war - absolutely. How do you see it? Universal adoration?

But wait, are we not told in the West that war time presidents do well in elections, especially when fighting against Nazis and cunts?

I don't think Western countries tend to hold elections during a war. Wrong time. Dunno though really. Churchill didn't do at all well in the first General Election post WW2.

The Ukranians aren't Nazis, anymore than the Canadians. The former's a fantasy that's been spun to evoke a historical, nationalist response in the Russian population. It's nothing more than a veneer of justification for grabbing parts of a neighbouring country. Having failed to take it all that is. Under Trudeau the latter's plain funny. There's only one Nazi in this tragedy and he ticks all the boxes.

Anyway, people need to be careful about their terminology. The (rubber stamp) Duma have passed a law which makes it an offence, punishable by a maximum of 15 years porridge, for anyone involved in the media to use the words "War" and "Invasion". Apparently it's "disinformation". What's going on in Ukraine has to be referred to as a "Special military operation".

I don't understand the enduring and frequent attraction of using "cunts" on this forum. I'm not Mr Sensitive but it comes across as coarse/rude and IMHO detracts from a poster's message. It seems to make the posters feel better for some reason. Anyway, whatever.

Isn’t Biden trying to be a war time president to help him win 2024 elections, even though he is really not at war with anyone, but just a chicken shit president along with all the other chicken shit leaders in the collective West fighting Russia in a proxy war in Ukraine?

I think BIden struggles to be anything these days. Must be a bit of a conundrum for you, Given how you felt/feel (?) about Trump, contrasted with his alluring statements about not only throwing Ukraine under the bus but tacitly offering to assist Putin with any plans he has to invade recalcitrant NATO countries the Don happens to disapprove of. Good luck with that "choice". To use what's become a cliche nowadays - a case of beware what you wish for perhaps?

"Chicken shit"? I'm sure nobody - Putin being top of the list - want NATO to get involved directly in the war. Do the math. Long may they continue to be chicken shit in that respect. Macron Bonaparte's stirred that up. Playing to his domestic audience. Electioneering. Five minutes ago he was saying Russia shouldn't be humiliated and in Moscow, accompanied by a fanfare of publicity, as the great peacemaker. Only to find himself at the far end of a 30' table! Humiliating, or what?

[Londonrake]

You make it sound like the Russian presidential system is unique when a strong NATO member country Turkey is no different, but the remaining NATO countries are very accepting of Erdogan using the same system as Putin to remain in power. Surely it is up to the citizens of those countries to deal with their leaders/elections and not the outsiders with their Suedo Democracy and freedom of speech/expression.

Catching up here. To paraphrase Eric Morecambe "I'm playing all the right notes (posts). But not necessarily in the correct order".

It's a contradiction I know but all Dictatorial regime political systems are "unique".

Here, in a thread about Ukraine, in relation to the election of it's principal antagonist, you divert the discussion to Erdogan, whilst avoiding related points made in the post you're supposedly responding to. That's called............................And - I have to ask - are you and Hood doing shifts? He responds to my post, I respond to his response, you respond to my response to Hood's post.................... etc, etc,

Is Turkey like Russia? I don't tend to get involved in local politics but I'd say no.

Erdogan's clearly been doing all the "right" things in order to create a de facto dictatorship but still remains trapped in a democratic system. I believe right now he's in danger of losing any chance of control of his capital city in the elections next week. Moreover, he's signalled his intent to respect the country's term limits and not run in 2028. Whether he does that or a "Putin" remains to be seen.

Putin will stay in power for life. He has to - or will most likely end up losing his own. Just my opinion but I suspect that's why he was so terrified of catching Covid. Not of the disease but the thought of being out of control whilst it raged in him.

Turkey is not Russia - yet - and the West tolerates it much as it tolerated Putin during his first 20 years in power. It doesn't look to me like Erdogan has many friends in the West. He doesn't even seem to have any in here! Isn't the fact that it's been made clear there's absolutely no way his country will join the EU whilst he's at the helm demonstrate that?

Putin certainly wouldn't tolerate an opposition like that in Turkey. He would have had Kilicdaroglu gotten rid of long before he became anything resembling an electoral competitor. There's really no comparison to be made between the two leaders.

Not sure why you use the term "Suedo (sic) Democracy". I would have thought the absolute anarchy and appalling standard of candidates nowadays demonstrates there's nothing Pseudo about political systems in the West.

Freedom of speech? Given the sort of authoritarian regime you seem to admire so much gaining power, I suspect a few of us in here - one side or the other, whether it be an extreme right or left government - would be on the sticky end of one of Lordo's "fair trials".

Paradoxically, Erdogan is a much greater potential personal threat to me than Putin of course.