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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:19 am

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Lordo wrote:The west has gone back to the domino theory that justified the attack on Vietnam. They are now using Ukraine for the same purpose. Once a few more million is killed they may just pull out.


The "West" weren't involved in the Vietnam war. Whatever your views, it wasn't really a case of Vietnam being attacked. You need to study your subject material more. I don't know how many times I've said that? You are a poor student.

The nations that were involved in the Vietnam War were the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Republic of (South) Korea, Thailand, and the Philippines. I think it would reasonable to say all these Nations were members of what is now known as The (US?) Western Alliance ? The war was started by the US false flag incident referred to as the Gulf of Tonkin incident and they then attacked North Korea ........ and when the US had run out of buildings to bomb they started bombing he paddy fields and small villages.

So maybe it is you that needs to do a bit of studying?


All of the dead, wounded, the millions having had their homes destroyed and being refugeed in Ukraine have been down to one single human being: Vladimir Putin.

Once again Putin didn’t start it ....... the US were behind the political interference from before the Orange Revolution in 2004! It was the US organised Coup in Kyiv in 2014 that overthrew the elected President which started the 2014- 2022 civil war. The US Backed Kyiv regime, also armed by the US/UK, decided to escalate the conflict on the 11th/12th Feb 2022. Russia responded to the US Backed forces of the Kyiv escalation on the 24th Feb 2022 well over a week later. Roughly translates as ........ the US Backed ultranationalist Regime in Kyiv started it.

Russia gave Kyiv many months of prior warning as the outcome if they were stupid enough to attack! They were stupid enough to believe the US had their back ....... and the Ukraine people have suffered as a result.


The West can't "pull out" as they're not actually in.

That is not what the leaked (confirmed) German MoD person said in a leaked recording ....... he upset the British by stating the obvious! The Brits and most likely also the French are already in action in Ukraine.

The British Storm Shadow missiles are being prepared and programmed by British military personnel. When the Brits (and likewise with the French Scalp missiles) have it all set up ........ Ukraine military presses the ‘FIRE’ button. So far the Russians have not reacted because Putin is not a hot head! He thinks and takes advice before reacting but be very sure the UK will pay a penalty for becoming directly involved in the Ukraine conflict.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/why-leaked-german-military-recording-is-causing-outcry-2024-03-04/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:25 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:The west has gone back to the domino theory that justified the attack on Vietnam. They are now using Ukraine for the same purpose. Once a few more million is killed they may just pull out.


The "West" weren't involved in the Vietnam war. Whatever your views, it wasn't really a case of Vietnam being attacked. You need to study your subject material more. I don't know how many times I've said that? You are a poor student.

The nations that were involved in the Vietnam War were the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Republic of (South) Korea, Thailand, and the Philippines. I think it would reasonable to say all these Nations were members of what is now known as The (US?) Western Alliance ? The war was started by the US false flag incident referred to as the Gulf of Tonkin incident and they then attacked North Korea ........ and when the US had run out of buildings to bomb they started bombing he paddy fields and small villages.

So maybe it is you that needs to do a bit of studying?


All of the dead, wounded, the millions having had their homes destroyed and being refugeed in Ukraine have been down to one single human being: Vladimir Putin.

Once again Putin didn’t start it ....... the US were behind the political interference from before the Orange Revolution in 2004! It was the US organised Coup in Kyiv in 2014 that overthrew the elected President which started the 2014- 2022 civil war. The US Backed Kyiv regime, also armed by the US/UK, decided to escalate the conflict on the 11th/12th Feb 2022. Russia responded to the US Backed forces of the Kyiv escalation on the 24th Feb 2022 well over a week later. Roughly translates as ........ the US Backed ultranationalist Regime in Kyiv started it.

Russia gave Kyiv many months of prior warning as the outcome if they were stupid enough to attack! They were stupid enough to believe the US had their back ....... and the Ukraine people have suffered as a result.


The West can't "pull out" as they're not actually in.

That is not what the leaked (confirmed) German MoD person said in a leaked recording ....... he upset the British by stating the obvious! The Brits and most likely also the French are already in action in Ukraine.

The British Storm Shadow missiles are being prepared and programmed by British military personnel. When the Brits (and likewise with the French Scalp missiles) have it all set up ........ Ukraine military presses the ‘FIRE’ button. So far the Russians have not reacted because Putin is not a hot head! He thinks and takes advice before reacting but be very sure the UK will pay a penalty for becoming directly involved in the Ukraine conflict.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/why-leaked-german-military-recording-is-causing-outcry-2024-03-04/

If they use such weapons against Russia not only the Ukraininas will pay a heavy price but who knows maybe Putin will exact punishment elsewhere.

I like LR's judgement that I am a poor student. And yet here we are and I am the one who moved 2000 miles as a student and had to learn another language and got a university degree. I think who is a poor student and who is not is obvious even to the uninitiated man like LR.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:14 pm

Lordo wrote:
If they use such weapons against Russia not only the Ukraininas will pay a heavy price but who knows maybe Putin will exact punishment elsewhere.

I like LR's judgement that I am a poor student. And yet here we are and I am the one who moved 2000 miles as a student and had to learn another language and got a university degree. I think who is a poor student and who is not is obvious even to the uninitiated man like LR.


Maybe it is just a case of "........the way you tell um ...." ? :wink: You load the gun and he pulls the trigger. :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:47 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
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If they use such weapons against Russia not only the Ukraininas will pay a heavy price but who knows maybe Putin will exact punishment elsewhere.

I like LR's judgement that I am a poor student. And yet here we are and I am the one who moved 2000 miles as a student and had to learn another language and got a university degree. I think who is a poor student and who is not is obvious even to the uninitiated man like LR.


Maybe it is just a case of "........the way you tell um ...." ? :wink: You load the gun and he pulls the trigger. :roll:

and shoots himself in the foot.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:11 pm

You've completely ignored my last post:

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Oh well.

Now, presumably with nothing better to do, you rush off to defend our "Swinecunt" friend. How low can the scraping of a barrel get? I feel sorry for you.

Robin Hood wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:The west has gone back to the domino theory that justified the attack on Vietnam. They are now using Ukraine for the same purpose. Once a few more million is killed they may just pull out.


The "West" weren't involved in the Vietnam war. Whatever your views, it wasn't really a case of Vietnam being attacked. You need to study your subject material more. I don't know how many times I've said that? You are a poor student.

The nations that were involved in the Vietnam War were the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Republic of (South) Korea, Thailand, and the Philippines. I think it would reasonable to say all these Nations were members of what is now known as The (US?) Western Alliance ? The war was started by the US false flag incident referred to as the Gulf of Tonkin incident and they then attacked North Korea ........ and when the US had run out of buildings to bomb they started bombing he paddy fields and small villages.

So maybe it is you that needs to do a bit of studying?


That's not what the monkey was talking about. He's attempting to tar his obsessions with the same brush. In the Vietnam war era "The West" related mainly to the US, Canada, UK and those countries which originally formed the EU. None of them bar the US were directly involved in Vietnam. France having pulled out of "French Indo China" in 1954. The West certainly didn't include countries in East Asia and Australasia, then or now. You're right about the Tonkin incident and I wrong. Nevertheless, Ho Chi Min's stated aim was the reunification of Vietnam by force. His expelling of the French and support from China and Russia making the war in South Vietnam inevitable. Do you truly believe it wouldn't have happened, bar Tonkin?

That war ended nearly 50 years ago. An interesting analogy though is perhaps how you've often proclaimed that Russia's presence in Syria, there to support the officially recognised government, (the latest member of the butchering Assad family) is all entirely legally correct and above board. Assisting, as it happens, in the killing of hundreds of thousands and the refugeeing of over 5 million. Figures which dwarf those of your outrage at events in Gaza but have been met with almost total silence. Well, actually, approval. Unlike Gaza, Syrian deaths don't of course count as "genocide". Yet, the US being invited in by the legally recognised South Vietnamese government was entirely different.


All of the dead, wounded, the millions having had their homes destroyed and being refugeed in Ukraine have been down to one single human being: Vladimir Putin.

Once again Putin didn’t start it ....... the US were behind the political interference from before the Orange Revolution in 2004! It was the US organised Coup in Kyiv in 2014 that overthrew the elected President which started the 2014- 2022 civil war. The US Backed Kyiv regime, also armed by the US/UK, decided to escalate the conflict on the 11th/12th Feb 2022. Russia responded to the US Backed forces of the Kyiv escalation on the 24th Feb 2022 well over a week later. Roughly translates as ........ the US Backed ultranationalist Regime in Kyiv started it.

Yes he did - he sent 200,000 troops into a neighbouring country! :lol: Read up on what happened in the Orange revolution. Seeing their neighbours, like Poland, prospering in the EU ignited a desire in the Ukranians to rid themselves of their corrupt, Russian puppet, President and get a piece of the cake for themselves. After a rigged election they took to the streets and that's exactly what they did. Got rid of their Lukashenko - another Russian puppet who'd be toast tomorrow by popular revolt were it not for their military presence. NATO membership was a factor but, given what we've seen with Turkish and Hungarian opposition to Finn and Swedish membership, added to German and French dependence on Russian energy and business does anybody really believe the Ukranians were going to be allowed to join anytime soon? Although, a bit more of a possibility nowadays of course.

Putin violated the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which he signed on behalf of his country. A solemn commitment to defend the sovereignty of Ukraine and pledge not to use force. That, in exchange for Ukraine's quite considerable stocks (and manufacturing facilities) of Soviet-era nuclear weapons. Not worth the paper it was written on. Forceably annexing Crimea in 2014 - supposedly backed up by an entirely illegal (farcical) referendum. Events which, met with much popular approval in Russia that, coupled with dithering by the West, primed his invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

Russia gave Kyiv many months of prior warning as the outcome if they were stupid enough to attack! They were stupid enough to believe the US had their back ....... and the Ukraine people have suffered as a result.

Stupid to attack what? GR's Ukranian plans for their Nazi invasion of Mother Russia (that would strike a chord). His ridiculous "revelations" of secret bio warfare facilities in Ukraine? :eyecrazy: But, come on, months of warning? Both Putin and Larov are on record as publicly stating that Russia had no intention of invading Ukraine in early 2022. It was all Western propaganda.

The West can't "pull out" as they're not actually in.

That is not what the leaked (confirmed) German MoD person said in a leaked recording ....... he upset the British by stating the obvious! The Brits and most likely also the French are already in action in Ukraine.

The British Storm Shadow missiles are being prepared and programmed by British military personnel. When the Brits (and likewise with the French Scalp missiles) have it all set up ........ Ukraine military presses the ‘FIRE’ button. So far the Russians have not reacted because Putin is not a hot head! He thinks and takes advice before reacting but be very sure the UK will pay a penalty for becoming directly involved in the Ukraine conflict.


Perhaps we should differentiate here. There's a considerable difference between a few advisors and a dozen armoured brigades with hundreds of supporting combat aircraft. As far as "pay a penalty" is concerned. I've lost count of the times in the past 2 years when Putin hasn't threatened dire consequences if this or that happens. Whether it be missiles, tanks, even DU rounds. Lately, if any Western aircraft turn up - well, we warned you. :roll: Hardly a month has gone by when we haven't heard a blood-curdling threat about the use of nuclear weapons. Yet, does anybody not believe they've been throwing the kitchen sink at Ukraine for 2 years and have basically gotten into a bogged down stalemate? Yes, we hear they've taken this village or that but the idea that Ukraine is in danger of falling anytime soon still seems a long way off. Hanging on to it afterwards a nightmare, which would make the Russian experiences in Afghanistan a walk in the park.

A few months ago you rushed to post a "Stop Press". From wotsitsname on Redacted. That Russia has used one of it's sooper-dooper Kinzals to take out a "secret" bunker near Kyiv. Killing hundreds of top Ukranian and NATO military people. Despite all those important people dying there hasn't been so much as a hint about it. Apart from the initial Russian MOD announcement. Do you have an update? Or perhaps you should do a bit more studying - lest you shoot yourself in the foot. Attracting a claim that you tend to parrot Russian propaganda
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:32 pm

Lordo wrote:I like LR's judgement that I am a poor student. And yet here we are and I am the one who moved 2000 miles as a student and had to learn another language and got a university degree. I think who is a poor student and who is not is obvious even to the uninitiated man like LR.


If you want to respond to any of my posts you should have the courage and confidence to do so directly. Rather than through third parties. People will think you're gutless. Either that or you should consider - really - actually - trying hard to STFU.

I understand though. You're fed up with having some of the total rubbish you post highlighted as such. It must be embarrassing for you. Over and over.

I'm pleased at your admission - finally - that you're a foreign guest in my country. As I am in yours of course. That's to say the "Swineland" you slag off relentlessly just about every day. It's just, you told RW some time ago you were a third generation Brit. :?

I don't know what sort of degree you have but ever since I've "known" you on this forum you've struggled with English. Frankly, some of the stuff you've come out with in the past has been ROFLMAO material. Your frequent foul-mouthed and kiddie toilet humour attempts at witicisms leads me to think that if you actually have such a thing as a degree it must be a pretty Mickey Mouse affair.

Nevertheless, I humbly take credit for hugely improving your literacy in posts on this forum. All umpteen daily dozens of them. I'm sure you will agree that we should continue the good work. If only we could do the same for your wrist-slashing, depressive attitude to everything under the sun.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Mar 06, 2024 10:43 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:I like LR's judgement that I am a poor student. And yet here we are and I am the one who moved 2000 miles as a student and had to learn another language and got a university degree. I think who is a poor student and who is not is obvious even to the uninitiated man like LR.


If you want to respond to any of my posts you should have the courage and confidence to do so directly. Rather than through third parties. People will think you're gutless. Either that or you should consider - really - actually - trying hard to STFU.

I understand though. You're fed up with having some of the total rubbish you post highlighted as such. It must be embarrassing for you. Over and over.

I'm pleased at your admission - finally - that you're a foreign guest in my country. As I am in yours of course. That's to say the "Swineland" you slag off relentlessly just about every day. It's just, you told RW some time ago you were a third generation Brit. :?

I don't know what sort of degree you have but ever since I've "known" you on this forum you've struggled with English. Frankly, some of the stuff you've come out with in the past has been ROFLMAO material. Your frequent foul-mouthed and kiddie toilet humour attempts at witicisms leads me to think that if you actually have such a thing as a degree it must be a pretty Mickey Mouse affair.

Nevertheless, I humbly take credit for hugely improving your literacy in posts on this forum. All umpteen daily dozens of them. I'm sure you will agree that we should continue the good work. If only we could do the same for your wrist-slashing, depressive attitude to everything under the sun.



Quite frankly, he should top himself and put himself, the forum and everybody he knows out of the misery he induces...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:43 pm

Don't you love the working class traitors in Hartleypool. They vote for the SwineCunts and then claim to lose faith in all politicians. Assholes. Serves them right for believing a single word BoZo said and voting this shower of SwineCunts in.

If the Tories hoped to excite voters with the budget, the evidence from Hartlepool is that they will be disappointed. But so might Labour. People said they had lost faith in all politicians.


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:19 am

Wrong thread? :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:37 am

Can somebody who has knowledge of the Clingon language explain to my SwineCunt friends that my friends ship has been severed with the, so to stop wasting their time posting comments about my posts as they are blocked.

Talk to the hand baby the face ain't listening no more.

I realise that being born in slum sort of formulate a person's character but we have come a long way since then and there is plenty of therapy available for those who need it.
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