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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:30 am



...he escaped, do you doubt it?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:13 am

To avoid me having to post my opinion on Navalny I will let Alex Chistoforou do it for me! This expresses my views ...................

https://theduran.com/cui-bono-not-putin-avdeyevka-falls-lavrov-eu-aims-at-russias-heart-scholz-elensky-10-year-deal/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:30 pm

Robin Hood wrote:To avoid me having to post my opinion on Navalny I will let Alex Chistoforou do it for me! This expresses my views ...................

https://theduran.com/cui-bono-not-putin-avdeyevka-falls-lavrov-eu-aims-at-russias-heart-scholz-elensky-10-year-deal/


I had a look at your link. Opinion? Really? :eyecrazy:

A scan of some of the comments is - as is so often the case - very revealing. Bearing in mind, this relates to the sudden death of a 47 year old - the most renowned and high profile Putin critic in Russia - in about as remote a place as you can get. A notoriously harsh Siberian penal facility. I mean, WTF was the man doing there?

Let's see:

"Appears very much like a vaccine side effect. Happens all the time these days."

"Despite people thinking that Navalny died from an accidental blood clot, I think that the co-ordinated response in the west and Mme Navalny being at the Security Conference the day he died, means that it was surely a planned execution by the usual agency. I think that the US are using the death of Navalny as an excuse to hand over some of the Russian frozen assets to Estonia (saying that they are for Ukraine – can’t quite work out the reasoning behind that one). They are going to justify this breaking of international law, by saying that Putin brought it on himself by executing Navalny. This is utterly disastrous because, now, the US has opened a whole can of worms. What they have done to Russia, other countries will do to the US. They have also placed a mark on Estonia (possibly in the hope that Russia will invade Estonia to get that money back). The Ukrainians have failed to conquer Russia – step up the next deranged patsy nation – Estonia.
When Yulia Navalny embraced Nancy Pelosi and said “thank you” – she was probably thanking her for her CIA Widows Pension."


Well, suffice to say.................... it goes on in a similar - lunatic - vein.

The Duran is of course yet another site which offers a variety of opinions. Reminiscent of Henry Ford's " you can have any colour you want. As long as it's black". It's all anti West. About as objective as a house brick in the face. As is always the case with these carefully selected "independent" sites.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:48 am



...according to this interviewer, few would stop to answer this question, but "they" were unafraid.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:27 am

...respect to the Danes.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:45 am

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:To avoid me having to post my opinion on Navalny I will let Alex Chistoforou do it for me! This expresses my views ...................

https://theduran.com/cui-bono-not-putin-avdeyevka-falls-lavrov-eu-aims-at-russias-heart-scholz-elensky-10-year-deal/


I had a look at your link. Opinion? Really? :eyecrazy:


O.P.I.N.I.O.N ....... that's what he expresses and that is what is 'on-the-label' it's what he does. He expresses an opinion which, in the main, reflects my own! You clearly don't believe people should be allowed to express opinions ...... unless they are opinions YOU agree with. You may have noticed that unlike your opinions, when he quotes he posts the source.

A scan of some of the comments is - as is so often the case - very revealing. Bearing in mind, this relates to the sudden death of a 47 year old - the most renowned and high profile Putin critic in Russia - in about as remote a place as you can get. A notoriously harsh Siberian penal facility. I mean, WTF was the man doing there?


He was no threat to Putin at all ..... just a pain in the ass ....... oh, and a convicted criminal (A racist and a neo-nazi to boot, trying to ' overthrow' :lol: the elected government with the help of the good old USA and their CIA!) a prisoner on bail who constantly jumped his bail conditions!

Navalny had 'form' ! So tell me what justification is there for keeping Assange locked up in Belmarsh high security prison full of REAL criminals, even though he has not broken any UK laws?

Let's see: ( Alex Christoforou said)

"Appears very much like a vaccine side effect. Happens all the time these days."


He's right! Often read cases of fit young people in the UK dropping dead minutes after a meal in a restaurant ......... because of a reaction to NUTS! Or coming out of a Gym and dropping dead! Same happens in hospitals in the UK with people given medicines/vaccines and then dropping dead or going into a coma within minutes. But if it happens in Russia .......... then Putin is to blame.

The Duran is of course yet another site which offers a variety of opinions. Reminiscent of Henry Ford's " you can have any colour you want. As long as it's black". It's all anti West. About as objective as a house brick in the face. As is always the case with these carefully selected "independent" sites.


That is just your opinion ..... of course ....... but unlike you and YOUR opinions which are often quoted as FACT, The Duran guys, provide a source to back their opinions! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:47 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...respect to the Danes.



Lets all celebrate, this will extend the war for a few more days and cause the deaths of thousands. It is time to admit this war is not winnable and sit at a table and negotiate peace. Political problems are always solved by talking not fighting.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:50 pm

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Ahh - the ole lay into the man bully boy stuff again ehh? Thought after all these years you would have learned. :wink:

I have on a few occasions answered your scathing criticisms of people - poor choice of word - actually those who disagree with you (me!) expressing opinions - any of your supporters opinions have always been welcome to you of course. :D Pointing out that the fundamental essence of any forum is people discussing them. Rather than your preferred robotic posting of factoid links. From "independent" sources of course. I'm glad to see that I've convinced you that you were wrong (Heaven forbid! What a ridiculous idea!) Now, you are preaching the creed of opinion - no less.

Navalny was the most high profile focus for anti-Putin sentiment. In a repressive country like Russia he brought 50,000 people onto the streets to protest about Putin's kleptocratic rule and the rife corruption, as evidenced in the Oligarch multi billionaire, post Soviet asset skimmers. Lately focusing though more upon the foolhardiness of the man invading his neighbours - emulating his much admired Peter the Great. Mr P doesn't like that sort of thing at all. I somehow feel you haven't really absorbed what he went through because of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexei_Navalny It's a very long read so you are absolved. Let's be honest, it wouldn't matter if it were a single paragraph though.

I would say it's extremely naive of you to believe that - having been effectively banished to what is apparently the most remote and notoriously harsh penal colony in Russia, "Arctic Wolf" gives you a good feel for it - safely out of reach of anything in the way of direct support - he died at the age of 47 from "natural causes". Then again, I've just touched upon your capacity to believe absolutely anything, no matter how ridiculous, in your resentful "cause". Then, when the originator does a complete 180 believe that with the same zealotry.

You keep going on about Assange. :roll: This thread's about aspects of Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine. When they try to assassinate Assange or banish him to a hell hole Arctic prison (sorry Belmarsh doesn't cut it)- where he conveniently dies of "natural causes" let me know. :wink:

Come on. As with the WTC nonsense, you avoid the fundamental questions like the plague.

As a man who has spent most of his life living in liberal democracies (bar the current "police state" :lol: ) and is in the top 10% of wealthy people on the planet. (check it out) what is it you think is so admirable about a dictator who has ruled his country with an iron fist for 22 years. A man who, on many occasions, has had critics and those with any potential to be a focus for opposing thought ruthlessly dealt with? Not to mention your similar feelings for the tyrants who run China, Iran and North Korea. Seriously, I'm genuinely interested. Does your feeling of being hard done by really go that deep? It has echoes of GR. :?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm

...yes Lordo, fifty years later Cypriots are still ignored, by the invader and the coupists without support who failed.

...and let's remember that had Putin been truthful Ukrainians would not be defending their very existence. Russia has no reason to have attacked the Ukraine but for the sake of "Ukrainians", who as a "Russian" he has defined.

What is the Problem is the same; intentions count.

...unlike "You" the Danes are not looking for some tribute, something to gain; they stand on Principle as Patriots toward a cause that is Universal, and at a time not of their own choosing but because it is necessary.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:41 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...yes Lordo, fifty years later Cypriots are still ignored, by the invader and the coupists without support who failed.

Cypriots had a chance for peace both in 2004 and 2017 and crapped out RW. First we kust look inside ourselves before we blame anybody else.

...and let's remember that had Putin been truthful Ukrainians would not be defending their very existence. Russia has no reason to have attacked the Ukraine but for the sake of "Ukrainians", who as a "Russian" he has defined.
Had Ukraine signed the Minsk Agreement and did not attack the East they would not be fighting this war is what you should have said
Besides Ukraine existence is not in question, the whole country is not being invaded and all they have to do is agree to a ceasefire and make peace with the Easterners. Assuming the Easterners wish to talk to them now.


What is the Problem is the same; intentions count.

...unlike "You" the Danes are not looking for some tribute, something to gain; they stand on Principle as Patriots toward a cause that is Universal, and at a time not of their own choosing but because it is necessary.
Danes could not see Principle if it hit them in face.


This is what Danes are all about.

Denmark accused of racism after anti-ghetto law adapted for Ukrainians. Change to controversial legislation will allow Ukraine refugees to move into housing emptied of ‘non-westerners’


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/02/denmark-accused-racism-anti-ghetto-law-ukraine-refugees
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