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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:14 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:It seems he was in that plane, but let's wait and see. Strange way for a plane to fall though-presumably missing half a wing.

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-killed-i ... t-12946006

Missing half a wing would indicate getting hit by a missile or an explosive device hidden in the main landing gear compartment!

It could be a sabotage by the West in bringing the plane down and then blame Putin for killing Prigozhin to stir up civil war within Russia, knowing how popular Prigozhin is there.

It is also possible Putin shot the fucker out of the sky. Call it "pay back" for the Wagner group shoting down Russian planes during the "coup" killing 12 Russian servicemen.


I am more inclined to think it was a sabotage by the West or the Ukrainians.
Very unlikely that Russia would kill him this way, also killing another 9 of their own people.
Also notice Ukraine is celebrating something today (independence day?) also the world's Media attention is currently on the BRICKS summit, so what better way to divert media attention.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:23 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...and he was in Africa just a few days ago.


Where he could easily get killed by some African paid killer, if Russia wanted to.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:30 pm

The EU now sanctions opposition parties!!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:12 am

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:19 am

...it seems that he was in his own plane from Moscow to St. Petersburg; let's not forget.

Prigozhin (R.I.P.) is/was a sidebar, like so many who found themselves in opposition, against Putin there is now a list.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:32 am

Intercepts, they seem so real,



...worse for Ukraine, perhaps. But Russian soldiers are having a very hard time of it, too.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:30 am

Progozhin ……….another NS2 scenario! Too early to know anything.

My guess …… the US Knows what happened and will blame Putin …… the British have been informed rather than consulted …… Zelenskey will deny he had anything to do with it and is looking for a very safe hiding place anyway!

Putin? He will make a note in his little-black-book ……… investigate what happened and when he has some facts will make them known. THEN we will have a much better idea of what happened!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:14 am

Robin Hood wrote:Progozhin ……….another NS2 scenario! Too early to know anything.

My guess …… the US Knows what happened and will blame Putin …… the British have been informed rather than consulted …… Zelenskey will deny he had anything to do with it and is looking for a very safe hiding place anyway!

Putin? He will make a note in his little-black-book ……… investigate what happened and when he has some facts will make them known. THEN we will have a much better idea of what happened!


Remember how the collective West were ejaculating all over themselves the day they thought that there was a coup taking place in Russia, no doubt orchestrated between the West and Progozhin in some back-room deal as the Wagner group were marching towards Moscow, a planned event known to the West few days earlier, and then the “coup” came to a dead-stop couple of hundred miles before Moscow to the much humiliated disappointment of the West as our good friend Paphitis was getting the popcorn ready for an epic showdown. Yeah, he too was very disappointed, with all that popcorn and no celebration.

It is conceivable that the West did the killing of Progozhin as a “payback” for being double-crossed and humiliated for Progozhin for not going through with the coup as planned and agreed to, so now the West would try to kill two birds with one stone to try and get the same results as much as possible as they were expecting with the coup, by killing Progozhin and blame it on Putin to stir unrest in Russia. The West has nothing to lose in the short term, so they just roll the dice and see what happens.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:16 pm

Putin's policy regarding the oligarchs has been clear from day one. He let them run their business, knowing full well it was mostly the result of stealing state assets. There was no other way to keep the economy running. Under one condition though: Don't use your economic power by turning against the State itself. Everybody who dared do so was eliminated one way or another. We 've seen this happening with Gazprom who were planning something after seeing their profits going down because of the sanctions.
Prigozhin would be eliminated one day that's guaranteed. But not NOW in my opinion. He was still useful for Belarus and Africa. Now whether he was discovered preparing something fishy against the Russian State either from or via Belarus or Africa, nobody knows.
If the West or the Ukrainians did it then we will learn about it indirectly. Russia will then take revenge withing the coming months. Patience ... :wink: :lol:
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