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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:28 pm

The presenter of this video, “The New Atlas”, always does a great job in explaining the war in Ukraine, and by using Ukrainian made war maps no less!


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:54 am



...you should remember how guerrillas fight, and how many have fallen thinking by the numbers they are small.

...if you watch both videos, i think, you get a bigger picture from a strategic perspective but it remains as unclear; we can do no more than exchange the news we find; the result in the end will surprise us all.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:The presenter of this video, “The New Atlas”, always does a great job in explaining the war in Ukraine, and by using Ukrainian made war maps no less!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQIZREAQ4W8


And he does provide links to everything he says!!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:07 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Kikapu wrote:The presenter of this video, “The New Atlas”, always does a great job in explaining the war in Ukraine, and by using Ukrainian made war maps no less!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQIZREAQ4W8


And he does provide links to everything he says!!


It also pays to listen to the ‘old timers’ who have witnessed ‘Ukraine situations’ many times over many years and have a far more in depth view of how the system works than any of US will ever have. Like this:

Silencing the lambs: How propaganda works - By John Pilger

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/57764.htm
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:08 pm

...thanks RH; good read.

Just like "Americans", "Russians" exist. A man like Putin is a wannabe; i see no difference in any of "Them" as intentions go.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:48 pm

Robin Hood wrote:It also pays to listen to the ‘old timers’ who have witnessed ‘Ukraine situations’ many times over many years and have a far more in depth view of how the system works than any of US will ever have. Like this:

Silencing the lambs: How propaganda works - By John Pilger

https://www.informationclearinghouse.info/57764.htm


I agree to all that, but I am a bit more optimistic. Certainly most media today are controlled by the plutocracy's propaganda to boost their financial interests, and keep the lamb on sleep. That's very effective, but who are the lamb? It's the people with low IQ or people who simply don't care, and yes they are the vast majority. I estimate that in Cyprus to be more than 95%.

However today there's the internet the social media etc. Anyone who is really interested can and find out details and the truth about everything. Is it surprising that the majority in this forum don't align with the Western media while actually residing in the West? That's because the people in here ARE interested.

The only problem I see is how this say 5% would propagate the truth to the sleeping 95% out there.E.g. How are you going to tell those ignorant that most of our huge price increases in Cyprus are because of the EU sanctions against Russia? We didn't dare even utter a word to EU's sanctions prohibiting Russian flights that would bring us thousands of Russian tourists, and everybody is now crying that our revenues from tourism ended up in the occupied! What is the Hotel industry plutocracy doing for that? What is our newly elected Western puppet President doing?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:36 pm

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin 'on board' crashed Russian plane


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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:14 pm

It seems he was in that plane, but let's wait and see. Strange way for a plane to fall though-presumably missing half a wing.

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-killed-i ... t-12946006
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:25 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:It seems he was in that plane, but let's wait and see. Strange way for a plane to fall though-presumably missing half a wing.

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-killed-i ... t-12946006

Missing half a wing would indicate getting hit by a missile or an explosive device hidden in the main landing gear compartment!

It could be a sabotage by the West in bringing the plane down and then blame Putin for killing Prigozhin to stir up civil war within Russia, knowing how popular Prigozhin is there.

It is also possible Putin shot the fucker out of the sky. Call it "pay back" for the Wagner group shoting down Russian planes during the "coup" killing 12 Russian servicemen.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:13 pm

...and he was in Africa just a few days ago.
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